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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor
    Plus you dont actaly have as free will as you think, try willing yourself to fly, im doubful youl have much success...
    If had enough willpower to deny all laws of physics and .. well, everything, you could put yourself in a state of mind where you truly believed yourself to be flying, and if you were in this state of mind then by the theory "I think therefore I am", you will succeed in flying. Alternatively, with enough willpower you could alter your understanding of flying so that by doing something else, you are in fact to your own mind, flying.

    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor
    Gods omnipitant right?
    Can god create somthing so hevey he can not lift it?
    Oh PARADOX...

    If god is benevolent and Omniptant? why is there evil in the world. Ether god does not want to stop evil (not benevolent) or he cannot (not omniptant)

    Oh crap, theres another paradox.. seems a little illlogical to me "/
    He's omnipotent, therefore He can overcome any paradox, even if it's beyond human understanding. That's the beauty of the thing, and you have to admit that there's no way around that particular argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor
    Yet it predates the religion by 1000s of years.. wired that..


    Actaly not unless you belive in first cause argument, which in that cause your libarys must have book covers.

    If god doesnt need a cause why does the universe?


    So god forgives "pride, gluttony, sloth, greed, and failure to help the poor."
    (Ezekiel 16:49)


    No actaly there FACT and are PROVEN. Your just incrediblty ignorat, especaly of the langwage used. The theary is the hypothisis exsplaining the event which is fact. We no evolution happens and is happening, But we not 100% sure how its happening, Althogh where pretty close...


    Big band isnt actaly a theary its just a byproduct of teaching methods.
    When you start school your taught you cant devide 3 by 2. the next year you taught you actaly can.
    Big bang is the cant devide 3 by 2. A real theary, say M-theary of String theary is the 1.5 ...


    Can you prove that? and if so where does god come from? if he doesnt need createing nore does anything esle

    God both makes them good and makes them bad thogh "/
    Plus you dont actaly have as free will as you think, try willing yourself to fly, im doubful youl have much success...


    Gods omnipitant right?
    Can god create somthing so hevey he can not lift it?
    Oh PARADOX...

    If god is benevolent and Omniptant? why is there evil in the world. Ether god does not want to stop evil (not benevolent) or he cannot (not omniptant)

    Oh crap, theres another paradox.. seems a little illlogical to me "/


    Where in the bible does it clame god doesnt suck? your being just as offencive towards the religion by makeing up stuff about it thats not actaly there? Whether god sucks or not is not for you to decide, god defines the consepts, its his choise not yours...
    God doesn't need a cause because God is infinital, with no beginning and no end. God created time so God must have existed before time thus God would have had no real beginning anyway. I know evolution exists, just not in the species changing into a different species way, but, for example, immunity is a case of evolution. God never made evil, he made humans with the capacity to be evil and through free will can humans choose to do right or wrong. The capability to fly has nothing to do with free will, the only thing stopping you is the incapability of the human body to do so and gravity, not God suddenly pulling you down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor
    So why did god give us free will? If it only causes suffering and evil? why were we given it? why could that attribute not just be removed and us live in blissful happyness?
    Why did god create a dark side to human nature, god in his omniscinets already knows the desion we will make, and he created the phycie that makes it, the person will only make the wrong desion if god made them wrongly?
    God wanted everyone to love him and only love that comes from a free choice of will is true love, if theres no free will then love isn't genuine.
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    Aiyo, homersexuality is wrong full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHADYWARRIOR
    Aiyo, homersexuality is wrong full stop.
    And why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
    If had enough willpower to deny all laws of physics and .. well, everything, you could put yourself in a state of mind where you truly believed yourself to be flying, and if you were in this state of mind then by the theory "I think therefore I am", you will succeed in flying. Alternatively, with enough willpower you could alter your understanding of flying so that by doing something else, you are in fact to your own mind, flying.
    Beliveing you are flying and flying are very differnt... Alot of drunks may think there petting pink eliphants.. those pink eliphants still aint real "/
    And i think therefore i am is not a theary, Nore anything, its part of descarts cogieto, which only justifes the single point which is "there is a thinking thing" nothing else..

    He's omnipotent, therefore He can overcome any paradox, even if it's beyond human understanding. That's the beauty of the thing, and you have to admit that there's no way around that particular argument.
    Well actaly its quite easy, and god looses it. A square is a shape with 4 sides, god cannot create a square with 3 sides, or it ceases to be a square, althogh he can make somone belive the 3 sided shape is a square it will not actaly be so.
    Such as He can not make it so that i never existed, since by existing now it would be impossible, regaurdless of the power, closes it delusion of many people and himself "/

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    God doesn't need a cause because God is infinital, with no beginning and no end. God created time so God must have existed before time thus God would have had no real beginning anyway.
    Before time is a contradiction? plus you just proved god does not exist.
    Existance is the state of contingent being within space and time. If god is nether contingent or within space and time, he therefor does not exist "/

    Plus Justife the belife that the universe needs a start first. What possible reason do we need for existance to requre a beginning?

    I know evolution exists, just not in the species changing into a different species way, but, for example, immunity is a case of evolution. God never made evil, he made humans with the capacity to be evil and through free will can humans choose to do right or wrong.
    Why give humans the capasity to do wrong? for his own enjoment? since all that is is cuaseing suffering, hence evil? and evil aint very benevolent "/
    The capability to fly has nothing to do with free will, the only thing stopping you is the incapability of the human body to do so and gravity, not God suddenly pulling you down.
    Actaly "religios" scients have clamed they disproved gravity and actaly gods pushing us down... only in america.. but still.
    If we had will that was free, we would be god, if we do not have the choise of doing somthing i will is then constrained to the phisical limations, and isnt free at all "/
    Such as gods will isnt free ether? if it were he couldnt be benevolent as that limits his will only to good "/

    Quote Originally Posted by asher_
    God wanted everyone to love him and only love that comes from a free choice of will is true love, if theres no free will then love isn't genuine.
    Old testiment god didnt want love? he just wanted worship? he basicly just killed people realy "/ benevolence came with the new testiment, its realy a complty differnt god "/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHADYWARRIOR
    Aiyo, homersexuality is wrong full stop.
    and why is that?

    *haha at me posting the same as sora, apologies ;p*
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    I Believe that nothing ever matters in life so wether your straight/Bi/Gay Or anything else It's not something you need to care about! It's basicly the same as being straight if you're gay/bi. I Don't know why people make such a big deal about it, We're all Human! We're eventually all guna die anyway, so my advice is for everyone to just make the most of their lives how they want to & Don't let anything get in the way.
    Every single person has a special quality x]

    I Know this has nothing to do with God what i'm saying, but i'm just getting my point accross ;]
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor
    Beliveing you are flying and flying are very differnt... Alot of drunks may think there petting pink eliphants.. those pink eliphants still aint real "/
    And i think therefore i am is not a theary, Nore anything, its part of descarts cogieto, which only justifes the single point which is "there is a thinking thing" nothing else..


    Well actaly its quite easy, and god looses it. A square is a shape with 4 sides, god cannot create a square with 3 sides, or it ceases to be a square, althogh he can make somone belive the 3 sided shape is a square it will not actaly be so.
    Such as He can not make it so that i never existed, since by existing now it would be impossible, regaurdless of the power, closes it delusion of many people and himself "/


    Before time is a contradiction? plus you just proved god does not exist.
    Existance is the state of contingent being within space and time. If god is nether contingent or within space and time, he therefor does not exist "/

    Plus Justife the belife that the universe needs a start first. What possible reason do we need for existance to requre a beginning?


    Why give humans the capasity to do wrong? for his own enjoment? since all that is is cuaseing suffering, hence evil? and evil aint very benevolent "/
    Actaly "religios" scients have clamed they disproved gravity and actaly gods pushing us down... only in america.. but still.
    If we had will that was free, we would be god, if we do not have the choise of doing somthing i will is then constrained to the phisical limations, and isnt free at all "/
    Such as gods will isnt free ether? if it were he couldnt be benevolent as that limits his will only to good "/



    Old testiment god didnt want love? he just wanted worship? he basicly just killed people realy "/ benevolence came with the new testiment, its realy a complty differnt god "/
    If God created space and time then God would exist outside of space and time. God never actually changed his ways, Jesus did most of it in the new testament, God rarely actually did much.

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    Its unatural and purely disgusting.

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