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    Quote Originally Posted by BL!NKEY View Post
    Lol if America didn't get involved in WWII Hitler would have taken over all of europe.
    How would that work? Russia end up occupied most of Germany in the end,hitlers problem was being attacked on all fronts "/ Even if the US had never joined the war, the only real difference would be russias on infludence in eurpoe, martial aid and many other of the americans useful contributions were primarly to try and keep communism at bay.

    Much of the war, like in ww1, america was selling to both sides.

    America invaded Normandy and were able to fight the germans back. The of the cold winter helped the russians keep the germans from going east and taking over Russia. Russia almost had to surrender after being cornered in a city.
    Russias military power was huge it was just very ineffective and ill-equiped as stalin had killed all the generals, majors... well the pretty much the whole of the upper command structure was missing... Stalin killed more Russian soldures than Germany ever did.
    Also soldures from the UK, Canada, France and poland also took part in the battle of Normandy, not just the US


    Then America was the main force against Japan to end the war. They battles on many islands to get close enough to mainland Japan and made the decision to drop the bomb. Russia might have had some impact on Americans decision to drop the bomb but that doesn't mean that Russia gets the credit for scaring the US into ending the war.
    They droped the bomb becuse the russians were getting read to invade japan, and japan hadent really played much of a roll in the eurpoean conflict, there dispute was primarly with the US itself "/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aight. View Post
    Good ol' System of a Down.

    Anyways, I would of thought Russia had the biggest army, that or North Korea. NK wouldn't have a big army, just a load of Nuclear Weapons :eusa_whis
    Russia may be the largest country and have the largest amount of troops but they lack structure and the country is quite poor.

    In the 2nd world war they were told to take the gu from the dead body of the person in the line infront of them because they could only afford for the first few lines to have guns.


    China however not only have economical strength they have tactical advantage and have lots of allies and suppliers. It also has a huge population (said to soon surpass that of america) and has superior technology to most countries.

    Like the Vietnamese in the Vietnam war, China could probibly defeat them seeing as China are very similar to Vietnam and very close to Vietnam but alot bigger. I think a country like that, so organised and with great technology at its disposal could easily defeat America.

    I think Vietnam actually showed that America is weak in its military force and until then many thought it to be THE most powerful country. But after being defeated by tiny Vietnam it shows that America is weak and I beleive China could easily overpower America or even Britain.


    Having said that, if a war was to break out between China and the USA then you could count on America starting a Nuclear war which would devistate the world.

    I may sound like a "Hippy" but it's pathetic of America to use fear and threat to try and control the other countries all to be seen powerful again and would rather start a nuclear war than be defeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leprachaun--X View Post
    It also has a huge population (said to soon surpass that of america) and has superior technology to most countries.
    China's is already larger, it's over 4 times the size of the USA's population. It is the most populated country in the world, not including those who have emmigrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    Well in WW1 the war was pretty much over by the time the US entered, which was only becuse a U-boat sank one of there ships. Before that they were getting rich by selling to both sides.
    err... no, president wilson wasn't going to enter the war after the attack on the passenger ship. it was when the germans tried to turn mexico against the US. check it, its true.

    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    You evidently failed history? the British empire was still around right up to WW2... Hardly centurys ago..
    wrong again buddy. i'm doing well in a.p. world history.
    anywho, the british empire may have still been around, but it wasn't as dominant as it was centuries ago.


    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    The british army remains one of the most highly trained in the world, so im sceptical of your use of the word "better"
    let's try this again. maybe read slower or something. people say that britain taught other countries everything they know. but these other countries have progressed a whole lot on their own since this time, hence the term "better". therefore, this fact can't be used as proof that britain has the most powerful army. k?

    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    And in WW2 russia was the bigger factor o.0 theres also alot of specuation it was americas fear of russia (and communism) that drove them to take alot of the decisive action they did in ww2 "/
    no again, the reason was japan's attack on pearl harbor. that's why the americans almost single handedly beat japan. most of the US's problem was with japan.

    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    Much of the war, like in ww1, america was selling to both sides.
    well, i learned that america supplied allied troops only before they entered the war. i can't picture america selling to germany and japan =/ however, i don't have any proof of which is correct.

    & we have to remember we were taught in different countries about the wars, therefore we have different aspects on what really happened.
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    I've got to say China, they have dedicated soldiers and really it's any 2 soldiers against one Chinese soldier. They are, rock 'ard m88!! But hey, that's just my opinion on the most powerful, although I think USA's army and the SAS also come trailing in since they're pretty good.

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    That site someone said earlier says it all really ---> http://www.cylist.com/List/400300720/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ---MAD--- View Post
    Many people debate which country has the worlds best army. America seems to be on top of the list but they have lost so many wars so how can this be. Maybe they just don't know how to use their army properly, who knows.

    Also note that many countries supply other countries with weapons and technology.

    Let the debating begin !
    I find the start to this debate a little misleading if not a bit anti-american.
    They lost the Vietnam War. What other wars have they lost? Many countries have lost a lot more wars than them.

    Anyway the world's best army has to be the Nato peace keeping force which is there to help rather than cause problems and is a coalition of many countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    I find the start to this debate a little misleading if not a bit anti-american.
    They lost the Vietnam War. What other wars have they lost? Many countries have lost a lot more wars than them.

    Anyway the world's best army has to be the Nato peace keeping force which is there to help rather than cause problems and is a coalition of many countries.
    oh god, this hurts me to say, but I agree with... um, catzsy. :eusa_sile

    it is a bit anti-american here. you guys make the american army sound like total dimwits who stumbled their way to a fairly good reputation with the world and a helluva lot of power. america has done stuff right, or they wouldn't be in the power position they are today.

    so, sorry if i sound anti-british in previous posts, but hey i didn't start it.

    i have nothing against british people.
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    Yeah the US has never really lost a war.

    They might have not won a few but it was not like the other country won and we had to surrender. It was more like we just left because it was not worth it. It did not effect us at home that much. In Iraq we might not have "won the war" but we have not lost it. Iraq has not taken us over.

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