What happens after you die?

[Ezzie.]

Well for a start they could be staged.. you know, a religion that is completely founded on lies and stolen beliefs could do that?

Or alternatively have you heard of a placebo effect?

[Technologic]

You turn into buddha

[Neil]

shame scinece cant explain how people have been healed due to springs such as places in Lourdes but hey maybe there is something in the water that makes you regain your vision and movement of a paralysed arm. I wonder why scientists have not yet been able to find this?

If it was actually true I'm sure an explanation can come up, water can't cure blindness or paralysis, if it could don't think you people would swarm over there? :rolleyes:

You have your beliefs, we have ours, you can't try and force your beliefs onto someone, I will never believe in any religion because it's all a bunch of rubbish to me, to each his own and all but as far as I see it everything in the universe is down to science, whether you wanna believe it or not

[Imp!]

If it was actually true I'm sure an explanation can come up, water can't cure blindness or paralysis, if it could don't think you people would swarm over there? :rolleyes:

You have your beliefs, we have ours, you can't try and force your beliefs onto someone, I will never believe in any religion because it's all a bunch of rubbish to me, to each his own and all but as far as I see it everything in the universe is down to science, whether you wanna believe it or not

You really havent been to Lourdes then :S Yes I do have my beliefs but I have not been as harsh as you saying that the religion is rubbish to you and that everything is down to science and that it is up to me whether I want to believe it or not? Well guess what? I dont believe it. Yes science may be responsible for many things that happen through the world but there are things in this world that aren't going to be explain in science

oh btw in answer to lourdes water

In samples of normal table water, the level of pH is significantly lower than that of reference samples, when an aliquot of water originating from the springs close to the sanctuary to the Virgin Mary at Lourdes at a final dilution rate of 1:400,000 parts has been added to the sample of water tested. The differences as compared to the reference waters, that is those samples to which the aliquot of Lourdes water were not added, were tested by analysis of the variance and were found to be highly significant. The measurements were conducted on approximately 600 samples. It was demonstrated that the phenomenon observed could not be attributed to chemical species present in the Lourdes water which can justify the lowering of the pH in relation to the dilution rate with which the work was performed.

[Mr.Sam]

religion has no hard evidence what so ever and science does.

[Holofoil]

Lol my auntie was offered a job at a charity raising money for people with illnesses to travel to Lourdes, and she just had a go at them and said she'd rather donate to science to help them discover cures that actually work, and aren't total rubbish. If going to Lourdes actually helped, it would be pretty obvious.

[Mr.Sam]

if Lourdes really worked they would be using the water in hospitals.

[Virgin Mary]

That water is my piss ;> of course it's going to do wonders.

[Susie Dent]

That water is my piss ;> of course it's going to do wonders.

After running DNA tests, the pube found in the water WAS from an Arabic virgin.

[Agnostic Bear]

you decompose, or in the case of cremation, you burn

simple as that really