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[GommeInc]

Dogs fight regardless and always have done, it is nature - for example when two dogs sometimes walk past one another and owners have to seperate them because they get into a scuffle, which if left alone could escalate. I'm stumped that you seem to think Pitbulls are animals which wouldn't harm a fly - most animals have that streak in them, and as I said above Pitbulls are stronger and more powerful hence do more damage.

Why do people put pitbulls against one another in dog fights? because they are naturally aggressive and physically stronger.

Main difference is not all pitbulls are brought up to attack. Some do not have the ability to hurt flies, so to speak, while others are trained to be violent and thus you get the cases where murder or harm are involved.

In short, pitbulls aren't bad, unless made to be. They should be legal to have as pets provided they're not violent, as with any other domesticated animal.

[Jordy]

Main difference is not all pitbulls are brought up to attack. Some do not have the ability to hurt flies, so to speak, while others are trained to be violent and thus you get the cases where murder or harm are involved.

In short, pitbulls aren't bad, unless made to be. They should be legal to have as pets provided they're not violent, as with any other domesticated animal.

They all have the ability to hurt flies. Regardless of how it was brought up, if a child runs in, stares it in the face and pats it on the head, the child is as good as dead. You cannot entirely tame anything, if it feels threatened it will always use it's instinct which is to attack. You can train a dog as much as you like but you can't stop that.

[GommeInc]

They all have the ability to hurt flies. Regardless of how it was brought up, if a child runs in, stares it in the face and pats it on the head, the child is as good as dead. You cannot entirely tame anything, if it feels threatened it will always use it's instinct which is to attack. You can train a dog as much as you like but you can't stop that.

Generalising again. Not all pitbulls will attack a child, some may be born not to immediately attack or trained not to attack. You get labradors who will attack children, cats and loads of other animals. In fact, when adopting a dog it is advised that ANY dog you adopt be introduced quitely to one, and never left with the animal alone unless it is completely harmless, which can be for any dog breed, including a pitbull.

[Jordy]

Generalising again. Not all pitbulls will attack a child, some may be born not to immediately attack or trained not to attack. You get labradors who will attack children, cats and loads of other animals. In fact, when adopting a dog it is advised that ANY dog you adopt be introduced quitely to one, and never left with the animal alone unless it is completely harmless, which can be for any dog breed, including a pitbull.

Indeed they should not be left alone with children but unfortunately it does seem to happen, hence the laws to protect people from particularly dangerous breeds.

A pitbull will attack a child if it feels at all threatened by it, you absolutely cannot tame a dog to put up with feeling threatened. It will kick out and become violent even if it's never done so before and been brought up well, it's in their nature and there's nothing that can be done about it. It's also unlikely some breeds of dog and cats could do serious harm to a baby, which is more than can be said for certain types of dogs.

[GommeInc]

Not all dogs feel threatened by nature, any breed of dog can be born with the ability to be calm. So no, not all Pitbulls will attack if it feels threatened. Pitbulls are capable of being calm throughout their life time without batting an eyelid or feeling threatened, while of course some naturally can't. Assuming they can attack at any moment at random is paranoia and fear mongering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssL0X...eature=related
^ Oh noes! A pitbull eating a man's face! By your theory and understanding, the above video must be fake, because a dog like a pitbull cannot and is not capable of licking a persons face. Heck, the dominant position it is in would suggest that the dog is more likely to attack him, but he seems rather calm for a dog that can attack at any given moment - especially when they cannot be "trained" to do the above.

Also, any dog is capable of attacking children - not just dangerous breeds. If you are going into adopting a dog, you are always advised to never leave it in the same room. Some breeds are more likely to attack than others (pitbulls, rottweilers) than others, but to blanket cover all breeds as dangerous is fear mongering, unacceptable and rediculous. Bringing back the poodle argument, they're vicious buggars - I remember walking my labrador and it started getting grumpy. Not had a problem with a pitbull I walked into with my dog.

[Jordy]

Not all dogs feel threatened by nature, any breed of dog can be born with the ability to be calm. So no, not all Pitbulls will attack if it feels threatened. Pitbulls are capable of being calm throughout their life time without batting an eyelid or feeling threatened, while of course some naturally can't. Assuming they can attack at any moment at random is paranoia and fear mongering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssL0X...eature=related
^ Oh noes! A pitbull eating a man's face! By your theory and understanding, the above video must be fake, because a dog like a pitbull cannot and is not capable of licking a persons face. Heck, the dominant position it is in would suggest that the dog is more likely to attack him, but he seems rather calm for a dog that can attack at any given moment - especially when they cannot be "trained" to do the above.

Also, any dog is capable of attacking children - not just dangerous breeds. If you are going into adopting a dog, you are always advised to never leave it in the same room. Some breeds are more likely to attack than others (pitbulls, rottweilers) than others, but to blanket cover all breeds as dangerous is fear mongering, unacceptable and rediculous. Bringing back the poodle argument, they're vicious buggars - I remember walking my labrador and it started getting grumpy. Not had a problem with a pitbull I walked into with my dog.

First of all that video is disgusting :L You wouldn't lick a toilet seat so why you'd practically get off with a dog is beyond me. He's also not doing anything at all to threaten the dog and he's most likely the owner so the dog is relaxed around him anyway. This is a particularly poor example and doesn't prove anything. I'm not doubting that they can be trained and be nice dogs, I'm just saying they're naturally aggressive, far more aggressive than other dogs, potentially deadly and cannot be totally tamed.

I have agreed they can be trained, but you cannot train them to ignore being threatened or intimidated. I really do not see what you're getting at, it's really beginning to get on my **** to be perfectly honest with you as this entire thread goes around in circles. I have not once called for certain breeds to be made illegal or anything along those lines, simply pointed out that dogs can be aggressive and always will be as it's in their nature.

[GommeInc]

First of all that video is disgusting :L You wouldn't lick a toilet seat so why you'd practically get off with a dog is beyond me. He's also not doing anything at all to threaten the dog and he's most likely the owner so the dog is relaxed around him anyway. This is a particularly poor example and doesn't prove anything. I'm not doubting that they can be trained and be nice dogs, I'm just saying they're naturally aggressive, far more aggressive than other dogs, potentially deadly and cannot be totally tamed.

I have agreed they can be trained, but you cannot train them to ignore being threatened or intimidated. I really do not see what you're getting at, it's really beginning to get on my **** to be perfectly honest with you as this entire thread goes around in circles. I have not once called for certain breeds to be made illegal or anything along those lines, simply pointed out that dogs can be aggressive and always will be as it's in their nature.

Because you say they "will" attack when you have no evidence. They will not all attack in every instance, nor feel threatened - it's a sweeping generalisation and shows lack of knowledge.
Not all pitbulls will "kick off" and become "violent", even when they have never shown signs of doing so. I'm merely pointing out your accusations show a lack of evidence and knowledge in the dog owning field, and are generalisations.
They may be more likely, but they're not ALL violent baby killers as you suggest that can attack, and will attack, at any given moment. I'm just going by what you've said

[The Don]

Because you say they "will" attack when you have no evidence. They will not all attack in every instance, nor feel threatened - it's a sweeping generalisation and shows lack of knowledge.
Not all pitbulls will "kick off" and become "violent", even when they have never shown signs of doing so. I'm merely pointing out your accusations show a lack of evidence and knowledge in the dog owning field, and are generalisations.
They may be more likely, but they're not ALL violent baby killers as you suggest that can attack, and will attack, at any given moment. I'm just going by what you've said

No, but they are more capable of killing humans than other dogs and because they are GENERALLY more agressive than other breeds, hence why they are chosen for illegal dog fights.

A dog cannot be controlled 100% by a human, think about it, dogs have been wild animals longer than they have been domesticated and will have natural agression even if you donn't like to admit it even poodles have natural agression.

I have a huge south african mastif and also a staff and I wouldn't expect them to hurt anyone, they are some of the kindest dogs i've owned. But that doesn't mean i'm going to leave my young nephew in a room with them on his own. ALL ANIMALS are capable of attacking humans but if brought up in a loving home, it only makes this LESS likely to happen, it's still possible.

[RedStratocas]

No, but they are more capable of killing humans than other dogs and because they are GENERALLY more agressive than other breeds, hence why they are chosen for illegal dog fights.

i'd like to see someone actually back up this accusation with evidence, cause i havent seen any.

[-:Undertaker:-]

i'd like to see someone actually back up this accusation with evidence, cause i havent seen any.

Well firstly because of the fact dogs such as pitbulls are used for dog fights as opposed to dogs such as Poodles and Yorkshire Terriers because they have a more aggressive streak and thus provide a better 'show' for dog fights. Second of all, pitbull attacks are pretty widespread and heres a large list of the attacks; *Removed* thirdly its rather obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes that dogs such as pitbulls are stronger and more dangerous when aggressive than a small dog such as a Yorkshire terrier will be. Its like arguing that a elephant is more dangerous than a mouse, yes both can flip - but which is more dangerous? the elephant.

I do wish dog lovers would stop arguing with the bleeding obvious, I mean I could also ask;

Is an angry crocodile more dangerous than an angry pitbull? yes it is.
Is a irritated shark more dangerous than a irritated clown fish? yes it is.
Is an angry elephant more dangerous than an angry zebra? yes it is.

Quite clearly, breeds such as pitbulls have a more-so aggressive streak and the damage resulting is much more worse than that of a poodle.

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