V6

[HotelUser]

Thank you for a most condescending apology, I wouldn't have it any other way from such a senior figure on a Habbo fansite.

Considering the accuracy and attitude within your posts I'm surprised Jin even bothered to give you any sort of apology.

One story that always made me giggle, was when Blob & Robbie told me that Alkaz didn't know how to code an iFrame. AGM (Content) my arse lol.

Oh boy, this is extremely relavent to version six.

First post that I've felt actually contributed to the discussion in a positive manner. Shame you banned the member so he couldn't have his say till now. I expect the Habbox Feedback forum to no longer be visible to guests as of next month, or in Habbox time, next year. Go team.

Ryan does have a fair overview on things from his point of view, and his reply is quite mature. He and I had a brief discussion today on the subject. It's the first post you've seen to contribute to the discussion in a positive manner you say? I'm quite glad we both agree none of your posts have done that so far then .

Mathew, you're a Habbox Manager, you lose the right to make a decent point as soon as you taken the role. It's just the way it goes around here lol.

This forum is gonna be hella boring once V6 is actually out.

And speaking of contributing to the discussion in a positive manner, eh?

Ryan you're not going to get anywhere with us with such a defensive and I'd go as far as to say narrow minded attitude like you've presented throughout the entire thread. You and I have even spoken about coding, V6 and Club Habbo in the past in the Help Desk and you were very easy to talk to then, so I'm entirely confused as to why you're taking such a different stance in this feedback thread.

Matthew has had access to and has been using the Events Department elements of the new website for longer than any other manager (I'm not going to count myself for obvious reasons), he is more entitled to speak his mind on anything he wants retaining to its presentation, coding, or opinions on this thread itself (and it's completely beyond me how there could even be such conflict when it comes to coding, I don't know how it works on other fansites though I'd imagine it's a lot less public).

[Mathew]

First post that I've felt actually contributed to the discussion in a positive manner. Shame you banned the member so he couldn't have his say till now. I expect the Habbox Feedback forum to no longer be visible to guests as of next month, or in Habbox time, next year. Go team.

You only think it contributes the discussion because he agrees with you, not everyone has to think you're correct, Ryan!

Mathew, you're a Habbox Manager, you lose the right to make a decent point as soon as you taken the role. It's just the way it goes around here lol.

Or maybe I'm just looking at reality and thinking this whole discussion is childish?

[Pyroka]

Considering the accuracy and attitude within your posts I'm surprised Jin even bothered to give you any sort of apology.

Oh boy, this is extremely relavent to version six.

Ryan does have a fair overview on things from his point of view, and his reply is quite mature. He and I had a brief discussion today on the subject. It's the first post you've seen to contribute to the discussion in a positive manner you say? I'm quite glad we both agree none of your posts have done that so far then .

And speaking of contributing to the discussion in a positive manner, eh?

Ryan you're not going to get anywhere with us with such a defensive and I'd go as far as to say narrow minded attitude like you've presented throughout the entire thread. You and I have even spoken about coding, V6 and Club Habbo in the past in the Help Desk and you were very easy to talk to then, so I'm entirely confused as to why you're taking such a different stance in this feedback thread.

Matthew has had access to and has been using the Events Department elements of the new website for longer than any other manager (I'm not going to count myself for obvious reasons), he is more entitled to speak his mind on anything he wants retaining to its presentation, coding, or opinions on this thread itself (and it's completely beyond me how there could even be such conflict when it comes to coding, I don't know how it works on other fansites though I'd imagine it's a lot less public).

Firstly I wasn't asking for a personal apology, I was simply stating that no managers have given any apology to any member on this forum over terrible estimates, but if that's the kind of apology that Jin would give out then it's probably for the best that he's not the one apologizing on behalf of Habbox. Come to think though, there's not many people who'd do a better job of it. As for my Alkaz comment, did I say it was relevant to V6? No, now stop trying to avoid the fact that it's pretty lolz that he holds such a position yet can't do basic HTML.

Also, I haven't mentioned any criticism of the features you told me about in V6, nor have I said it's going to be terrible (though I know I've said it's going to be a letdown compared to the hype), nor have I said anything which contradicts what I said in the help desk to you that night, therefore your point of view on saying that I have a different stance is very much misguided. You could search in other threads for anything which contradicts what I've said and backs up your point of view, but I think you'd be wasting your time.

[Hecktix]

Last time I checked Ryan this thread quite clearly stated that no member of management has estimated any release period apart from end of January/Q1 2011 so management have nothing to apologise for.

[HotelUser]

Firstly I wasn't asking for a personal apology, I was simply stating that no managers have given any apology to any member on this forum over terrible estimates, but if that's the kind of apology that Jin would give out then it's probably for the best that he's not the one apologizing on behalf of Habbox. Come to think though, there's not many people who'd do a better job of it. As for my Alkaz comment, did I say it was relevant to V6? No, now stop trying to avoid the fact that it's pretty lolz that he holds such a position yet can't do basic HTML.

Also, I haven't mentioned any criticism of the features you told me about in V6, nor have I said it's going to be terrible (though I know I've said it's going to be a letdown compared to the hype), nor have I said anything which contradicts what I said in the help desk to you that night, therefore your point of view on saying that I have a different stance is very much misguided. You could search in other threads for anything which contradicts what I've said and backs up your point of view, but I think you'd be wasting your time.

In lieu of picking on poor Joe here I could if I wanted, find what I would consider areas of coding in which you're lacking that would suggest you're ill-suited to hold the position of Club Habbo Site Manager. I believe it was you who told me yourself that there's a lot you're still learning which was cause of controversy over your appointment to the position during our conversation in the Help Desk. Every coder or person working with websites has their weaknesses and to publicly scrutinize someone over theirs as you have done is simply displaying a disgustingly bad attitude for someone in your position.

Since you've brought up Joe his position here works out quite well because he can focus on making sure the content of Habbox.com is pretty, and upto date and I can focus on the coding side of things, producing and updating scripts, bug fixes without having content management to worry about 50% of the time. Joe understands enough HTML to get by in content management- and as of the present Habbox uses the Joomla markup language to include external pages so iframes don't really matter and your example from the grapevine is redundant. I'll also go as far as to say that who we (well-- in this case Matt and Jin) appoint to a position is absolutely none of your business and since you seem to have forgotten how jobs work here which is odd considering you've been familiar with Habbox for years and years, if you wish to lodge a complaint where there is room for momentum thereafter I strongly encourage you to do so privately. I have linked this entire last sentence to Mr. Garner's inbox for your convenience

[Chippiewill]

The thing is, this whole thing could have been dealt with months ago if either Jin, Matt or generally any AGM had just said:

"Apologies on the inaccurate ETA of Version Six issued by Blob, he got overexcited"

Instead you're acting like six year olds, not manning up and turning him into villain so that you weren't the ones to blame. Regardless of who actually said it, it's your responsibility to publicly apologise because you're the managers.

Last time I checked Ryan this thread quite clearly stated that no member of management has estimated any release period apart from end of January/Q1 2011 so management have nothing to apologise for.

You're managers, deal with your actual responsibilities for once rather than winging in feedback threads about why it isn't.

[AgnesIO]

The thing is, this whole thing could have been dealt with months ago if either Jin, Matt or generally any AGM had just said:

"Apologies on the inaccurate ETA of Version Six issued by Blob, he got overexcited"

Instead you're acting like six year olds, not manning up and turning him into villain so that you weren't the ones to blame. Regardless of who actually said it, it's your responsibility to publicly apologise because you're the managers.


You're managers, deal with your actual responsibilities for once rather than winging in feedback threads about why it isn't.

This man talks sense.

[GommeInc]

The thing is, this whole thing could have been dealt with months ago if either Jin, Matt or generally any AGM had just said:

"Apologies on the inaccurate ETA of Version Six issued by Blob, he got overexcited"

Instead you're acting like six year olds, not manning up and turning him into villain so that you weren't the ones to blame. Regardless of who actually said it, it's your responsibility to publicly apologise because you're the managers.

You're managers, deal with your actual responsibilities for once rather than winging in feedback threads about why it isn't.

100% agreed. I was talking about this the other day with a few members on here and it's incredibly shameful how some members and general management are reacting. You get the General Management who are playing the blame game but never actually solve any issues (some of which are acting incredibly out of order :rolleyes, then when members fight back they get all angry and "pissy" digging a much deeper hole for themselves than necessary. IF members are spreading rumours, invalidate them, not play a pointless blame game and show the whole forum community how incredibly childish and unprofessional you are.

[sophiethenerd]

I like mangment. Hey they make mistakes, but everybody does . Now this is not a thread about mangement or stuffs .Its about v6.
Back on topic so I dont get warned ,Hi mods!
I think when it is launched its going to be totally different to what we are expecting.

[Chippiewill]

This man talks sense.

100% agreed.

Oh good, I thought I might have been wrong somehow. But judging by the way that management are now avoiding this thread like the plague...