HxHD Changes

[Con]

I think community involvement would be fantastic. I have always been one suggesting this, sure we've got a quiz, but maybe something more unique and to a bigger scale will really put HxHD back into a very strong position.

As for this thread, it's a shame it has to lead to such petty arguments, remember it's about HxHD, not Uncle Bob or anyone else.

Yeah I was speaking to Roxy today and she reminded me of what Dan2nd used to do as manager
He used to have this guess the password game on where members would ask HxHD staff a question and we could give a clue towards the password.
Things like this, and quests and such could really work well in HxHD

[HotelUser]

I think community involvement would be fantastic. I have always been one suggesting this, sure we've got a quiz, but maybe something more unique and to a bigger scale will really put HxHD back into a very strong position.

As for this thread, it's a shame it has to lead to such petty arguments, remember it's about HxHD, not Uncle Bob or anyone else.

I hope the more involved community will balance with the lack of staffmembers now - when HxHD had a team of 20 staffmembers in the summer for instance activity was excellent - but even several months ago when we had just 14 staff attendance wasn't so good.

As staff are a clear key element towards populating the room having a shortage wont help, we will have to see how active managers are I suppose.

[Richie]

I'm not going to comment on whether Matt was approving or disapproving of the Head DJ change, all I know is that he agreed it was removed for the wrong reason and brought back for the wrong one too, until we changed that a few weeks ago.

Richie, it's all dependent on how a staff member chooses to speak out, I'll list staff members that came to me with problems with the initial changes announced and I'm sure they won't mind: Yupt, Roxy916, sophiethenerd, Alex3213, Dilusionate and others also made comments. Roxy916 approached me personally to say why she was against what had been suggested and she suggested changes, other staff also suggested changes and this is what shaped the HxHD changes. So to say "no staff speak out cause if they do they get what jake's getting" is wrong. All HxHD staff spoke out and the majority had their say politely, reasonably and had damn good reasons and suggestions and I can do nothing but applaud the staff for such suggestions, without them we would have probably implemented changes to the HD that would not have worked.

I will not respond well to bad reactions without reasonable reasoning, for instance a rogue staff member kicking off because he's now the same rank as everybody else.

In fairness though Oli, it's human nature. If you worked your ass off for a Job in real life, then finally got promoted but then demoted because the company wanted to make a change, you and anyone else in the same position would be angry. Maybe Jake is wrong but he's just annoyed and I don't blame him.

[Hecktix]

Yeah I was speaking to Roxy today and she reminded me of what Dan2nd used to do as manager
He used to have this guess the password game on where members would ask HxHD staff a question and we could give a clue towards the password.
Things like this, and quests and such could really work well in HxHD

And it is things like this which these changes should prompt (I hope )

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In fairness though Oli, it's human nature. If you worked your ass off in a real life Job got promoted then got demoted because the company wanted to make a change, you and anyone else in the same position would be angry. Maybe Jake is wrong but he's just annoyed and I don't blame him.

I would understand if we had demoted him, however we haven't, as Yupt said multiple times their job has not changed in the slightest.

[Ajthedragon]

I will not respond well to bad reactions without reasonable reasoning, for instance a rogue staff member kicking off because he's now the same rank as everybody else.

Had it not been for that end bit that might have been the first generally constructive and polite post you've posted in this thread.

[scott]

Yeah I was speaking to Roxy today and she reminded me of what Dan2nd used to do as manager
He used to have this guess the password game on where members would ask HxHD staff a question and we could give a clue towards the password.
Things like this, and quests and such could really work well in HxHD

We used to always do this and do things were we ended up dressing as pirates, I can't remember what exactly. But doing HxHD events always start out with great intentions of it happening regularly and it happens a few times then never happens again. I hope events and such start happening regularly because it will benefit the desk greatly.

As for the staff changes I think it's a good idea. Everyone on the one level and in the job to help other habbos rather than their own personal gain in such a small department senior roles aren't needed. I don't see anything has been removed from super staff? just other staff gained room kicking privileges which I think is a great move for the desk.

[Con]

We used to always do this and do things were we ended up dressing as pirates, I can't remember what exactly. But doing HxHD events always start out with great intentions of it happening regularly and it happens a few times then never happens again. I hope events and such start happening regularly because it will benefit the desk greatly.

As for the staff changes I think it's a good idea. Everyone on the one level and in the job to help other habbos rather than their own personal gain in such a small department senior roles aren't needed. I don't see anything has been removed from super staff? just other staff gained room kicking privileges which I think is a great move for the desk.

Completely agree with your post actually
I wish I could remember everything that Dan2nd and you did as managers but I remember there was a lot and it was popular the whole way through!

[Grig]

As for the senior roles, I agree it was ridiculous in the past, heck I think the department started having a reputation for scooping out senior roles easier than anyone.

When your seniors outnumber your normal staff, something isn't right. That has often been the case in HxHD

[Richie]

I would understand if we had demoted him, however we haven't, as Yupt said multiple times their job has not changed in the slightest.

He is now normal staff because the super staff position was removed. So in some way he may still feel as if he got demoted. It would be just like going to work, constantly being on time and putting in that extra bit of work that the others didn't put in. Then those who (in nice terms) who didn't do as much as he may have done get promoted to the same level as him. Therefore all the extra effort he put in was pointless.

Yeah, I know the above is probably going to spark an argument because lets be honest all the staff are competitive and want to be better than one another.


I'm not saying Jake was better than other staff I'm just giving my view on what may have made him angry or just very opinionated.

[Hecktix]

He is now normal staff because the super staff position was removed. So in some way he may still feel as if he got demoted. It would be just like going to work, constantly being on time and putting in that extra bit of work that the others didn't put in. Then those who (in nice terms) who didn't do as much as he may have done get promoted to the same level as him. Therefore all the extra effort he put in was pointless.

Yeah, I know the above is probably going to spark an argument because lets be honest all the staff are competitive and want to be better than one another.


I'm not saying Jake was better than other staff I'm just giving my view on what may have made him angry or just very opinionated.

There are measures in place to remove staff who don't pull their weight, in every department whether there is a ranked structure or not there are slackers, more often then not you find senior staff slacking because they class themselves above the others, I could give you numerous examples of this happening with roles such as Senior DJ, Head DJ, Forum Super Moderator, Expert RV, Head RV, and most importantly Super Staff