iPhone 5 / iPhone4s

[GommeInc]

No, in my opinion it's not playing catchup at all. There's not that many dual core smartphones right now. Most are still single cored. In a year, if they were just upgrading to a dual core chipset I would call it playing catchup. However since most smartphones are single cored and dual cored phones are new in 2011 it's not catchup. What would you of had Apple release for it not to be catchup? We're far from quad core phones you know

There's not many dual-core smartphones out there, but it's still becoming on par - to catch up - with latest emerging trends so it is playing a form of catch up. You've got to look at the iPhone by looking at the company, so in this case Apple. Apple is now on par with the growing change in technology which appears to be dual core processors. Although they are not popular, Apple are many months late into the field. It's not a bad thing to have finally caught up as it's obviously a good thing for people who want an extra kick out of their new iPhone, so asking "what should Apple do to not be playing catch up" is unnecessary as you're assuming catching up is bad It's just not that special to be considered "new" or amazing

So it's fair of people to say it's catching up, but that's the problem with one company with one format. Remove iOS from the equation and Apple are just another smartphone manufacturer, designer and producer in the mix.

[HotelUser]

There's not many dual-core smartphones out there, but it's still becoming on par - to catch up - with latest emerging trends so it is playing a form of catch up. You've got to look at the iPhone by looking at the company, so in this case Apple. Apple is now on par with the growing change in technology which appears to be dual core processors. Although they are not popular, Apple are many months late into the field. It's not a bad thing to have finally caught up as it's obviously a good thing for people who want an extra kick out of their new iPhone, so asking "what should Apple do to not be playing catch up" is unnecessary as you're assuming catching up is bad It's just not that special to be considered "new" or amazing

You make it sound as if Apple neglected a major element of the phone industry for a very long time. Apple's update brings the iPhone 4 up to the modern developments of the mobile phone industry in 2011. I would label RIM or Microsoft as companies playing catchup in the mobile computing industry.

Microsoft in 2005 was dominating with Windows Mobile. They had a firm 17% of the market and were pushing out Windows CE and Windows Embeded licensing for Phones, HPCs, GPS devices and lots more. By 2005 standards Windows Mobile was arguably superior or on par to PalmOS and BlackBerryOS of the time. When the iPhone was introduced with its multitouch support and full web browser, along with dozens of other unique features, Windows Mobile faded into the dark. It was attempted to be revived with major release revisions 6.0 and 6.5, with the Windows Mobile Market launched for 6.5 however ultimately discontinued. Microsoft has now since re-entered the handset operating system competition with Windows Phone 7 but have only managed to grasp about 2% of the marketshare thus far, whilst Android and iOS are at approximately 43% and 18% respectively. I think Windows Phone 7 and the promise of ARM support in Windows 8 were two giant steps in the right direction from Microsoft, but there's no doubt that since Apple first unveiled 2007, Microsoft, has been playing a serious game of catchup.

Research in Motion essentially fell asleep whilst the iPhone was announced, produced, sold. They were also sleeping when they watched their marketshare of over 35% decrease to 12% in 2011. This company's behaviour is arguably even more irresponsible than Microsoft's in the mobile industry because they had such a vast amount of marketshare and completely and utterly blew it in every way imaginable. Jaguar Financial Canada published an open letter to RIM suggesting they sell off like Nortel, the PlayBook absolutely did not sell and the fact that they released it as such was practically insulting potential buyers. Their stock value? From $150 a share now down to $24, and financial reports for RIM are grim. They've dug their own grave just like Microsoft, but where Microsoft is now filling it back in, RIM is getting ready to lay in it. I truly believe for a handful of years in the future, we are going to refer to the two companies of Palm and RIM as the two companies who made the most stupid decisions out of anyone, and who cause their own complete downfall of the industry.

So there you have Microsoft and RIM who've been playing utterly horrific games of catchup since 2007, and there was also Palm and HP with WebOS. In this industry, the mistakes of the big players can be seen ten miles away, and the attributes separating successful companies in it, Apple and Google, and the loosing companies, Palm, HP, Microsoft (FTAO Mattrosoft: for now), all lead back to how the losers have just been playing catchup for years.

Is Apple really playing catchup because they've just now released a dual core phone when we've only seen dual core phones for mere months? Looking at the examples of Microsoft, Palm and Research In Motion where over a span of years there was next to no software improvement and pathetic hardware improvement, I absolutely couldn't disagree more with you when I say I cannot see any grounds to accuse the catchup game here. Dual Core chipsets in phones are only months old to the consumer industry. Apple releases one revision of the iPhone a year. This year they included a modern dual core chipset in their new iPhone.

[GommeInc]

You make it sound as if Apple neglected a major element of the phone industry for a very long time. Apple's update brings the iPhone 4 up to the modern developments of the mobile phone industry in 2011. I would label RIM or Microsoft as companies playing catchup in the mobile computing industry.

Microsoft in 2005 was dominating with Windows Mobile. They had a firm 17% of the market and were pushing out Windows CE and Windows Embeded licensing for Phones, HPCs, GPS devices and lots more. By 2005 standards Windows Mobile was arguably superior or on par to PalmOS and BlackBerryOS of the time. When the iPhone was introduced with its multitouch support and full web browser, along with dozens of other unique features, Windows Mobile faded into the dark. It was attempted to be revived with major release revisions 6.0 and 6.5, with the Windows Mobile Market launched for 6.5 however ultimately discontinued. Microsoft has now since re-entered the handset operating system competition with Windows Phone 7 but have only managed to grasp about 2% of the marketshare thus far, whilst Android and iOS are at approximately 43% and 18% respectively. I think Windows Phone 7 and the promise of ARM support in Windows 8 were two giant steps in the right direction from Microsoft, but there's no doubt that since Apple first unveiled 2007, Microsoft, has been playing a serious game of catchup.

Research in Motion essentially fell asleep whilst the iPhone was announced, produced, sold. They were also sleeping when they watched their marketshare of over 35% decrease to 12% in 2011. This company's behaviour is arguably even more irresponsible than Microsoft's in the mobile industry because they had such a vast amount of marketshare and completely and utterly blew it in every way imaginable. Jaguar Financial Canada published an open letter to RIM suggesting they sell off like Nortel, the PlayBook absolutely did not sell and the fact that they released it as such was practically insulting potential buyers. Their stock value? From $150 a share now down to $24, and financial reports for RIM are grim. They've dug their own grave just like Microsoft, but where Microsoft is now filling it back in, RIM is getting ready to lay in it. I truly believe for a handful of years in the future, we are going to refer to the two companies of Palm and RIM as the two companies who made the most stupid decisions out of anyone, and who cause their own complete downfall of the industry.

So there you have Microsoft and RIM who've been playing utterly horrific games of catchup since 2007, and there was also Palm and HP with WebOS. In this industry, the mistakes of the big players can be seen ten miles away, and the attributes separating successful companies in it, Apple and Google, and the loosing companies, Palm, HP, Microsoft (FTAO Mattrosoft: for now), all lead back to how the losers have just been playing catchup for years.

Is Apple really playing catchup because they've just now released a dual core phone when we've only seen dual core phones for mere months? Looking at the examples of Microsoft, Palm and Research In Motion where over a span of years there was next to no software improvement and pathetic hardware improvement, I absolutely couldn't disagree more with you when I say I cannot see any grounds to accuse the catchup game here. Dual Core chipsets in phones are only months old to the consumer industry. Apple releases one revision of the iPhone a year. This year they included a modern dual core chipset in their new iPhone.

The key words associated with catching up were all in the bit in bold The new iPhone 4s "brings" it up to the standards of modern developments. That's becoming on par RIM and Microsoft are behind, yet to "catch up" so to speak. It's the use of language. To bring up to standards is the same as saying to catch up or to be on par as something. So you need not write so much as it's blatantly clear that RIM and Microsoft are behind. In fact, it might be safe to say they're not even trying to catch up, which is a shame as Microsoft brought to us smartphones before with the original Windows Mobile OS, they just didn't market it in the same way Apple did

So although you disagree, you're inadvertently admitting Apple are playing catch up but trying to deny it. In the last few posts you've used key words associated with the game of catch up, including key phrases such as:

"Apple's update brings the iPhone 4 up to the modern developments of the mobile phone industry in 2011". They've caught up with new developments. They acted faster than RIM/Microsoft.

"That's not playing catchup that's on par with other handsets." It wasn't before but is now, that's because it is now on par - to have caught up or now be a part of an emerging standard.

Basically, the use of past, present and future tense, and the way they're inter-relating

[HotelUser]

The key words associated with catching up were all in the bit in bold The new iPhone 4s "brings" it up to the standards of modern developments. That's becoming on par RIM and Microsoft are behind, yet to "catch up" so to speak. It's the use of language. To bring up to standards is the same as saying to catch up or to be on par as something. So you need not write so much as it's blatantly clear that RIM and Microsoft are behind. In fact, it might be safe to say they're not even trying to catch up, which is a shame as Microsoft brought to us smartphones before with the original Windows Mobile OS, they just didn't market it in the same way Apple did

So although you disagree, you're inadvertently admitting Apple are playing catch up but trying to deny it. In the last few posts you've used key words associated with the game of catch up, including key phrases such as:

"Apple's update brings the iPhone 4 up to the modern developments of the mobile phone industry in 2011". They've caught up with new developments. They acted faster than RIM/Microsoft.

"That's not playing catchup that's on par with other handsets." It wasn't before but is now, that's because it is now on par - to have caught up or now be a part of an emerging standard.

Basically, the use of past, present and future tense, and the way they're inter-relating

No, do not annoy me by putting words in my mouth sir I did not inadvertently admit to anything

I did not inadvertently admit to anything because I also said, that Dual Core introduction to mobile phones is something that's new. So Apple adhering to this standard now is not a game of catchup because the standard itself is a very new one. If you buy a house made a year ago it's a used house, but it's still considered a new one

[GommeInc]

No, do not annoy me by putting words in my mouth sir I did not inadvertently admit to anything

I did not inadvertently admit to anything because I also said, that Dual Core introduction to mobile phones is something that's new. So Apple adhering to this standard now is not a game of catchup because the standard itself is a very new one. If you buy a house made a year ago it's a used house, but it's still considered a new one

That example doesn't work, and I'm not putting words in your mouth, it's written in black and white You said Apple have brought it up to standards with the new, emerging technology. That's catching up, to become on par Your example would only make sense if it included the design of the house, something that's a new design but a year old. It's new, but the house isn't original and is built to be on par with a new, emerging design

In short, it's alright to try and say that it's not an old technology, but it's a growing technology many companies are trying to adopt, with many catching up with it, like Apple for instance

[HotelUser]

That example doesn't work, and I'm not putting words in your mouth, it's written in black and white You said Apple have brought it up to standards with the new, emerging technology. That's catching up, to become on par Your example would only make sense if it included the design of the house, something that's a new design but a year old. It's new, but the house isn't original and is built to be on par with a new, emerging design

So by your definition of catching up every phone other than the LG's Optimus 2X has since been playing catchup because the Optimus 2X was the first dual core phone?

[GommeInc]

So by your definition of catching up every phone other than the LG's Optimus 2X has since been playing catchup because the Optimus 2X was the first dual core phone?

Not my definition, it's the literal definition of catching up / being on par

[HotelUser]

Not my definition, it's the literal definition of catching up / being on par

You crazy Gomme. Anyways I'm eyeing the Galaxy Nexus instead of a 4S now. Though I would much rather prefer iOS to Android the 4.5" screen on the Nexus is heaven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py9TfZGie48

[Recursion]

No, in my opinion it's not playing catchup at all. There's not that many dual core smartphones right now. Most are still single cored. In a year, if they were just upgrading to a dual core chipset I would call it playing catchup. However since most smartphones are single cored and dual cored phones are new in 2011 it's not catchup. What would you of had Apple release for it not to be catchup? We're far from quad core phones you know

Have you been living under a rock? There are plenty of dual core smart phones? :S

[xxMATTGxx]

Some of the dual core phones on the market and I'm pretty sure there is a few more devices missing off the list:

Samsung Galaxy S II
Motorola Droid Bionic
Motorola Atrix
HTC Sensation XE
LG Optimus 2x
LG Optimus 3D
HTC Sensation
HTC Evo 3D