It's time to bring back the lottery

[Inseriousity.]

Not really a loophole if they're the one who said it

[Kyle]

It's a good idea but we're not going to do it. We've had one warning from Habbo already so trying to find loopholes in their rules would just aggravate them. I'm afraid it's a choice between official fansite status or the lottery.

Perhaps try actually contacting habbo and discussing the options rather than writing them off lol


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[Chris]

It cannot be done:

* There is an entrance fee, and everyone wins/receives a prize. This is fine unless it becomes evident that the game is organised to get around the new rule.

They're going to know straight away that we're doing it to get around the rule.

[Kyle]

Create a pot of random furniture ranging from junk to 4-5c or higher, charge 1c for entrance fee and award entrants with 1 randomly selected furniture and entry into the bigger prize draw. Naturally the majority of the items would be worth less than a coin (or 2 if you want to change the fee) but everybody will still get a (ideally immediate) prize for paying and it's not just half of what they already paid so it's not a loophole. You can still make money, people get a furniture prize and they have the added bonus of a chance at the big win.

You're being extremely defeatist here. If you need funding then explore your options properly and discuss what can be done that is fairest for everyone.


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[Lewis]

I suggested that months ago @Richie;

And I suggested it long before you too!

[Empired]

Create a pot of random furniture ranging from junk to 4-5c or higher, charge 1c for entrance fee and award entrants with 1 randomly selected furniture and entry into the bigger prize draw. Naturally the majority of the items would be worth less than a coin (or 2 if you want to change the fee) but everybody will still get a (ideally immediate) prize for paying and it's not just half of what they already paid so it's not a loophole. You can still make money, people get a furniture prize and they have the added bonus of a chance at the big win.

You're being extremely defeatist here. If you need funding then explore your options properly and discuss what can be done that is fairest for everyone.


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That's something I was going to say kind of. Walking home today I was thinking about those old "win every time" grabbers that people used to have. I'll explain for those who don't know:
It's a normal grabber (6x6) but there is a piece of furni in every single space. So whatever number is rolled it will land on SOMETHING, but whether it's worth more than you paid is the point.

Surely that would be allowed as everyone wins every time?

[Richie]

And I suggested it long before you too!

I suggested that months ago @Richie;

lmao does it really matter who came up with it, lets not get all hipster, its a good suggestion, I'd imagine more than one person has thought about incorporating the forum to host the competition lol

I don't think it's really worth the risk tbh, losing official status would kill the site from the client. At least we can advertise in game atm.

[Chris]

These ideas are all great ones, but the point I'm getting across is being totally ignored. Habbo now know about the lottery, if we try to cover it up by using a different name or by offering prizes to all players then we are still breaking the rules. There is no way around it and I am not going to be putting our official status at risk. I'm pretty sure Matt and Jin wouldn't want us to be taking that risk either.

[Kyle]

These ideas are all great ones, but the point I'm getting across is being totally ignored. Habbo now know about the lottery, if we try to cover it up by using a different name or by offering prizes to all players then we are still breaking the rules. There is no way around it and I am not going to be putting our official status at risk. I'm pretty sure Matt and Jin wouldn't want us to be taking that risk either.

Your point hasn't been ignored, it's just not an immediately valid one because of the option of discussion and compromise with those who have created the rule. Yes these are in essence "ways to get around the new rule" but their intentions are not to exploit or manipulate habbos or encourage gambling - they are suggestions to offer a unique opportunity for habbos to win a prize with minimal contribution and to extend funding of future habbox events using any surplus. Nobody loses out here and so the ideals embodied in the implementation of the gambling rule simply do not apply.

What needs to be realised is that the main contributing factor to the severance of the lottery scheme is the lack of communication between habbox and habbo which meant that habbo themselves, though they wish to support their fansites as much as possible, had to cover their own asses and ask that it be removed. You have an opportunity now to communicate with the fansite team and explain that you're not looking for loopholes to encourage gambling or profit from the misfortune of others but want to offer a fun service that also happens to have potential to help keep your fansite afloat and in turn keep and attract customers for them. Explain that nobody will lose out and you aren't just altering your scheme to adhere as loosely as possible to rules and that it is fair for everyone.

Habbox is the UK's longest standing habbo fansite, it has an extensive furniture database, regularly updated articles, the largest active habbo-related wikipedia and more. All of these are important to habbo, they know that they need their fansites and they will work with you, but you have to at least try. To see general management of today kowtowing to flimsy demands and not even bothering to fight for such a prestigious site that has really become a cornerstone of habbo history is very disappointing. There is no risk to take, you just need to persuade them that it is beneficial for all before you actually go ahead with it this time. Talk to them and don't back down until every option has been exhausted, it's what habbox deserves.

[Empired]

These ideas are all great ones, but the point I'm getting across is being totally ignored. Habbo now know about the lottery, if we try to cover it up by using a different name or by offering prizes to all players then we are still breaking the rules. There is no way around it and I am not going to be putting our official status at risk. I'm pretty sure Matt and Jin wouldn't want us to be taking that risk either.

I don't really see how your point has been ignored. My suggestion has absolutely nothing to do with the lottery and, as far as I can see, is totally within the rules of Habbo as EVERYONE gets a prize of some form.

You'd do better to communicate with Habbo, put foward the different ideas suggested in this thread (except the ones that are blatantly just trying to avoid the rule) and see what they might be willing to allow. If they still say no to all of them, at least you can say you tried.