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    Quote Originally Posted by Empired View Post
    I'm probably just being forgetful but why was the idea of community hosting dropped? Doesn't need to be available every week but I still think it would be a nice idea and can't think of any drawbacks. The questions would still have to be written by HxHD staff I think to minimise the possibility of leaking of questions and the person could be given the questions last minute. I still think it would show the community that hosting SNQ isn't the walk in the park they imagine it to be. (Or perhaps they'll find it is. That would be interesting but still beneficial.)

    What about department takeovers? They used to happen a while ago where very occasionally another department (I think the time I'm thinking of was when the forum dept took over) would take over SNQ for a week and do questions related to their own area.
    Part of the grind comes from the questions. Anybody can host then say "oh don't blame me I didn't write the questions". Plus, it would make literally no difference as far as leaking is concerned in my opinion and if it was to happen, it would have to be to more trusted, well known members only. It's not been outright ignored as an idea, there's just no point considering it when SNQ is in limbo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samanfa View Post
    Just because you're not the Events Department doesn't mean you can't showcase what your department has to offer or what it actually does. I understand you're the Help Desk, but we have to write competitions in moderation, HxL Head+ need to host events, there's nothing wrong with branching out and expanding what the department is capable of. There's not always a surge of people needing help, so when there isn't the staff can just sit around twiddling their thumbs for the remainder of their hours when they could easily do something and also gain hours for it as well.

    Also, there are 28-31 days in a month, you currently have 4 senior+ staff so that at the very least will be 24 days for the other staff to do something, and seeing as they have to be active within 21 days before being dismissed, I'm sure they might think of something (if they want to of course). I believe there's a reward scheme in place, so this could tie in nicely if they like the incentives the department offers.
    I know, but I feel if we forced people to do events then it would make people resign/not apply in the first place. There is something under discussion currently which will allow for more opportunities for staff to host more flexibly though, should they wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Part of the grind comes from the questions. Anybody can host then say "oh don't blame me I didn't write the questions". Plus, it would make literally no difference as far as leaking is concerned in my opinion and if it was to happen, it would have to be to more trusted, well known members only. It's not been outright ignored as an idea, there's just no point considering it when SNQ is in limbo.
    No hosts > SNQ is in limbo as no one wants to host > no point in offering the opportunity to host to more people because snq is in limbo > no hosts

    I don't really see what you've got to lose by offering other people the opportunity to host. SNQ is already failing as you've said, so what are you trying to protect?

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    I think a lot of the issue here isn't that people don't want to host, but can't at that specific day/time. So my proposal is, maybe move it to a Sunday? A lot of people who work on Saturdays are usually around on Sundays (not all the time) there is nothing wrong with SNQ as a format but it just seems it is the lack of hosts which is even bringing the idea of SNQ changing. Wispur was looking for a day/time for his Pac-man weekly, would the current SNQ time suit better? Just my two cents worth.

    Ps, communication is key. If you can't host SNQ post it as soon as you realise on the forum. People will be unhappy either way but atleast you tried your best to tell us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empired View Post
    No hosts > SNQ is in limbo as no one wants to host > no point in offering the opportunity to host to more people because snq is in limbo > no hosts

    I don't really see what you've got to lose by offering other people the opportunity to host. SNQ is already failing as you've said, so what are you trying to protect?
    Fair point. Well if @Wispur; is OK with it then I will sort something out ASAP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzinator View Post
    I think a lot of the issue here isn't that people don't want to host, but can't at that specific day/time. So my proposal is, maybe move it to a Sunday? A lot of people who work on Saturdays are usually around on Sundays (not all the time) there is nothing wrong with SNQ as a format but it just seems it is the lack of hosts which is even bringing the idea of SNQ changing. Wispur was looking for a day/time for his Pac-man weekly, would the current SNQ time suit better? Just my two cents worth.
    I feel like it was suggested one time a fair while back and it wasn't well received. I think the best idea, if it was to move day, would be to get people to vote in a poll but I think people do want a weekly Saturday event regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Fair point. Well if @Wispur; is OK with it then I will sort something out ASAP.



    I feel like it was suggested one time a fair while back and it wasn't well received. I think the best idea, if it was to move day, would be to get people to vote in a poll but I think people do want a weekly Saturday event regardless.
    I agree an event will need to take the 7pm slot on Saturdays, which is why I wondered about the Pac-man thing. Or, how about even though the SNQ takes place same time, same day, same place, you could ask an events host to host it? There are so many solutions, you just need to be prepared to take a risk and tweak what needs fixing.

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    Graphics isn't an events department either but their success under Drew came with increased community involvement. As the help side of hxhd becomes more and more redundant it needs to shift its main focus and snq is one of its main features - if people aren't hosting, put it in their monthly targets in their reports.

    Questions take an hour at the absolute maximum to write and there are all manner of resources available in the staff forums for those unable to think them up without guidance. Perhaps reorganise/rewrite guides so that staff are more at ease when it comes to writing questions and hosting the quiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzinator View Post
    I think a lot of the issue here isn't that people don't want to host, but can't at that specific day/time. So my proposal is, maybe move it to a Sunday? A lot of people who work on Saturdays are usually around on Sundays (not all the time) there is nothing wrong with SNQ as a format but it just seems it is the lack of hosts which is even bringing the idea of SNQ changing. Wispur was looking for a day/time for his Pac-man weekly, would the current SNQ time suit better? Just my two cents worth.

    Ps, communication is key. If you can't host SNQ post it as soon as you realise on the forum. People will be unhappy either way but atleast you tried your best to tell us.
    For years now, people have suggested having another quiz on a weekday, a non-bst time etc. and nothing has ever really come about from it. Understandable people do work, but it's had hosts for that time slot for years now, so it must be ok for most of them. I would go with other people and have 2 quizzes or another event that others that can't host SNQ could make, at least then it would be varied. Although, I think 7pm on a Saturday isn't too bad, if you go changing it though then you have the problem for those who can host at that time, but not the time it's changed to - understandably not everyone can be pleased and it can't fit for everyone, but I guess we don't know unless we try.

    Also, @dbgtz; you shouldn't have to force your staff members if they want to work in the department - they should ideally want to do stuff and I know you said you do anyway, but instead of forcing suggests and recommend they do this or that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samanfa View Post
    For years now, people have suggested having another quiz on a weekday, a non-bst time etc. and nothing has ever really come about from it. Understandable people do work, but it's had hosts for that time slot for years now, so it must be ok for most of them. I would go with other people and have 2 quizzes or another event that others that can't host SNQ could make, at least then it would be varied. Although, I think 7pm on a Saturday isn't too bad, if you go changing it though then you have the problem for those who can host at that time, but not the time it's changed to - understandably not everyone can be pleased and it can't fit for everyone, but I guess we don't know unless we try.
    There was a quiz hosted by ekelektra and australian times but it didn't garner much interest.

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    Perhaps offer staff the choice between hosting on a Sunday or hosting on a Saturday. So the quiz will always be at 7pm but it could be Sunday OR Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    There was a quiz hosted by ekelektra and australian times but it didn't garner much interest.
    Yeah I remember the idea for it, but the international side wasn't too big back then. However, it was only a few months ago that they needed to get an International Senior just because there were so many international staff, is this still high in numbers @dbgtz;? Perhaps, if it is then something could be done on that side too.

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