Many changes needed

[Samantha]

Wait, you spend minutes on news articles?! It is a process much longer than that. Probably I don't get your post, so you need to be more concise than that. I would rather read news on the forum as it's posted quicker than HX is atm. Didn't get any of your questions and I'd reevaluate if you spend "minutes". Besides, news used to be respected, now you can get in with SPAG errors, I'm sure people like Adzeh would be turning in their Habbox corpse per say if they see it.

It's not in the worst state. However, it could be much better and it's ignored because not everyone understands the ins and outs of news.

Plus, I agree on specialized articles, don't cover crap that is on mainstream media etc. This is why myself and Martin were successful when we just had entertainment and tech news because people could make them unique etc. Only unique weekly articles with analysis should be allowed as real life news stories, not paraphrasing some news website that does the story more justice than a bunch of teenagers ever could.

One thing, for a couple of weeks we've had less people editing News Reports and less SPAG errors go under the radar now, I seem to remember a while back that it was the same when you were in the department too. Anyway I know it takes me longer than minutes to write News Reports as I always delete it all if I don't like it and start again .

[Grig]

One thing, for a couple of weeks we've had less people editing News Reports and less SPAG errors go under the radar now, I seem to remember a while back that it was the same when you were in the department too. Anyway I know it takes me longer than minutes to write News Reports as I always delete it all if I don't like it and start again .

Which is why when I looked at a few latest news articles just now, I saw some SPAG errors...

[Chippiewill]

That's closed off. A real Wiki uses the guest system as it contains a heck of a lot of potential, gets people signing in and keeps interest.

This is actually a leftover from when Zuth was in charge. Originally anonymous editing was disabled whilst HxW was a "secret", this continued as we were having severe problems with spambots. Zuth was fairly against using using a captcha for whatever reason so we never set it up (As I believe would make most sense) so that people could anonymously edit with a captcha.

I'll change this tomorrow, need to think through some stuff first though as I think the captcha is a bit bugged at the moment.

Does your version of the Wiki system not have the Guest management system where they can edit Wiki pages, but the edits are not made active until a checker has evaluated the changes?

We used to have this system (Although still only registered users could use it) but it was very buggy, counter-intuitive, pages would go days (Sometimes months!) without being approved. All in all it was a terrible system.

[Samantha]

Which is why when I looked at a few latest news articles just now, I saw some SPAG errors...

If they've been on days then begin to worry, a few hours isn't as bad. Like I said we only have 3 people who can edit (some doing other things or who aren't online I might add).

[Grig]

If they've been on days then begin to worry, a few hours isn't as bad. Like I said we only have 3 people who can edit (some doing other things or who aren't online I might add).

Oh forgot to see that ! I looked back and apart from lack of any interesting sentence structure (in which there are errors from time to time) and adjectives, it seems fine to me . Although those two issues need careful editing!

[GommeInc]

This is actually a leftover from when Zuth was in charge. Originally anonymous editing was disabled whilst HxW was a "secret", this continued as we were having severe problems with spambots. Zuth was fairly against using using a captcha for whatever reason so we never set it up (As I believe would make most sense) so that people could anonymously edit with a captcha.

I'll change this tomorrow, need to think through some stuff first though as I think the captcha is a bit bugged at the moment.


We used to have this system (Although still only registered users could use it) but it was very buggy, counter-intuitive, pages would go days (Sometimes months!) without being approved. All in all it was a terrible system.

They take weeks if not months to work properly. The more people that edit the more people you can promote to be in charge of guest edits. It's what a few Wiki sites I helped out on did, it took quite a while but it is well worth it. After a while you can enable total guest edits and rely on any rollbacker editors to deal near on instantly with any malicious edits that arise.

It'll be worth it to re-enable guest edits in whatever way possible, if there is interest in the Wiki you may find useful information.

On a side note: Remove the Habbox entry from the "Fansite" page, it reeks of bias and being the only fansite on that page it comes off as self-glorification, when it's meant to be a Habbo Wiki, not a Habbox one

[RyRy]

These kinds of threads are made like every few months I swear. Isn't it just easier for Habbox to do a questionnaire on the HxF announcements every 6 months so Habbox can focus on what the users think is most important, thus letting the site cater for the current users and hopefully attract newer users?

Saying "the forum is declining", "Moderation is lacking" & "The site needs updating" from a couple of people doesn't account for the whole of the active user base you know. If there were actual numbers behind all this stuff I'd think the issues that users are most concerned about would have more attention.

[Catchy]

These kinds of threads are made like every few months I swear. Isn't it just easier for Habbox to do a questionnaire on the HxF announcements every 6 months so Habbox can focus on what the users think is most important, thus letting the site cater for the current users and hopefully attract newer users?

Saying "the forum is declining", "Moderation is lacking" & "The site needs updating" from a couple of people doesn't account for the whole of the active user base you know. If there were actual numbers behind all this stuff I'd think the issues that users are most concerned about would have more attention.

I agree with this, if I had £1 for the amount of times I'd heard "we not getin any new memberz" I'd be so rich!!! Need to stop talking about it and do something about it imo. Then again in Habbox's defense it has been going strong(ish) for how many years? I really can't see it growing anymore than it is now.

[Chippiewill]

They take weeks if not months to work properly. The more people that edit the more people you can promote to be in charge of guest edits. It's what a few Wiki sites I helped out on did, it took quite a while but it is well worth it. After a while you can enable total guest edits and rely on any rollbacker editors to deal near on instantly with any malicious edits that arise.

It'll be worth it to re-enable guest edits in whatever way possible, if there is interest in the Wiki you may find useful information.

Not sure what you're trying to argue here. Plan is tommorow to enable anonymous editing with captcha before you post. Any spammers / trashers will be efficiently blocked.

I will not re-implement a revision approval system, it is not worth the effort.

On a side note: Remove the Habbox entry from the "Fansite" page, it reeks of bias and being the only fansite on that page it comes off as self-glorification, when it's meant to be a Habbo Wiki, not a Habbox one

My response to the content of Wiki pages has and always will be that if you have an issue you should ideally change it yourself. If your change is reverted then PM me and I will fix it. In this case I will get it sorted however the content department is responsible for curating the wiki, not accepting content change requests.

[LiquidLuck.]

Wait, you spend minutes on news articles?! It is a process much longer than that. Probably I don't get your post, so you need to be more concise than that. I would rather read news on the forum as it's posted quicker than HX is atm. Didn't get any of your questions and I'd reevaluate if you spend "minutes". Besides, news used to be respected, now you can get in with SPAG errors, I'm sure people like Adzeh would be turning in their Habbox corpse per say if they see it.

It's not in the worst state. However, it could be much better and it's ignored because not everyone understands the ins and outs of news.

Plus, I agree on specialized articles, don't cover crap that is on mainstream media etc. This is why myself and Martin were successful when we just had entertainment and tech news because people could make them unique etc. Only unique weekly articles with analysis should be allowed as real life news stories, not paraphrasing some news website that does the story more justice than a bunch of teenagers ever could.

You realise ''minutes'' can go from 1 to how many you want.. About what Jan said, News looks like the one with less hits. At least in HxL they have some listeners, and Idk about RV, but even when I wasn't Staff, I used to look at it when I wasn't sure about a price, but like I said, I feel like they need to be quicker than they are in our days, and they should do regular updates for example each staff would have to pick one of the furni seccions and find out if the prizes are still the same, and for that reason right now I confirm with the marketplace.
But News only has like 1/2 comments, mostly from me, that's what I meant, and it's really a shame because like I said before, we spend time on those articles for more people to read them.
About the SPAG erros, that's not really true. Before the post of an article we have to do like the Microsoft word diccionary thing and check which words are wrong. Of course the managers/head reporters update some of our words/sentences, but I doubt they didn't before.

About real life news, this is a Habbo fansite so we need news about Habbo more than we need others. If people who aren't part of the forum read habbox for news, then that's what they will want.