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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    Good quality articles, much like good quality essays do not take as little time as you say.

    2 is fine for a minimum, 3 is also OK and was the norm for a while when Martin and I lowered it from 4! But people started struggling, so I believe it was lowered- not sure.

    People posting away right when they start their trial is an issue that needs to be sorted, maybe have a system that you can't take more than 2 weeks leave during your trial or something like that.
    tbh I would implement that if it was happening but I don't think it's ever happened with any trialists I've had so far lmao. But ye I have considered 3 before recently but with the pickup in staff we were having it was actually fine with just 2 really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketing View Post
    Would be interested to see what other departments commitments are. I think 20-30 mins an article is there (I write essays at 1500 words an hour, and the news articles are 250 words, right? So give extra time).

    Each department should have similar time commitments.
    I can't talk about news requirements as I still believe I should only be writing content and not news reports, but the minimums for the content side of it is very uncertain. The changes I've been making are very substantial. For example changing a page like http://habboxwiki.com/Music into a page like http://habboxwiki.com/Explore_Habbo. That would easily take 2-3 hours and I still have information to source until the page is complete. Yet this would be classed as 1 edit, whilst somebody else could do a little spelling and grammar on a page taking maybe 5 minutes and would have made the same contribution.

    Overall I've just been really put off by the merge. I was asked to come back and join the team and did. But since the merge I have been thinking about quitting unless things change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell View Post
    tbh I would implement that if it was happening but I don't think it's ever happened with any trialists I've had so far lmao. But ye I have considered 3 before recently but with the pickup in staff we were having it was actually fine with just 2 really.
    Oh I swear I can recall a few cases like that in the past or maybe @Samanfa; can, but maybe my memory is fading .
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasta View Post
    I can't talk about news requirements as I still believe I should only be writing content and not news reports, but the minimums for the content side of it is very uncertain. The changes I've been making are very substantial. For example changing a page like http://habboxwiki.com/Music into a page like http://habboxwiki.com/Explore_Habbo. That would easily take 2-3 hours and I still have information to source until the page is complete. Yet this would be classed as 1 edit, whilst somebody else could do a little spelling and grammar on a page taking maybe 5 minutes and would have made the same contribution.
    I was talking to tom about this earlier and spag does actually take a lower amount then 1 edit, varying from small amounts to like 0.5 of an edit depending on how much is actually done, and I'm probably assuming that if the page is large enough it's going to be more then 1 edit? It is pretty much uncertain though I do agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell View Post
    I was talking to tom about this earlier and spag does actually take a lower amount then 1 edit, varying from small amounts to like 0.5 of an edit depending on how much is actually done, and I'm probably assuming that if the page is large enough it's going to be more then 1 edit? It is pretty much uncertain though I do agree.
    I said something along the lines of this a while ago to Tom and you might have noticed in my updates that most of the time I put in brackets the change in file size just to show how much effort was put into it. He said that he was thinking of making us post a word count (or something similar) of the changes we made. Something like this I think should be used as part of the minimums, maybe require us to have made 5,000kb of changes or something reasonable like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    Oh I swear I can recall a few cases like that in the past or maybe @Samanfa; can, but maybe my memory is fading .
    Perhaps a couple, but some of them resigned during their trial too.
    @pasta; if I was doing the amount of work you do I would assume that when you add over 20,000 characters to a page it's classed as more than one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasta View Post
    I said something along the lines of this a while ago to Tom and you might have noticed in my updates that most of the time I put in brackets the change in file size just to show how much effort was put into it. He said that he was thinking of making us post a word count (or something similar) of the changes we made. Something like this I think should be used as part of the minimums, maybe require us to have made 5,000kb of changes or something reasonable like that.
    A word count wouldn't be as efficient as the character count - as you'd have to get the word count yourself plus find out which words were and weren't there previously. A character count is fine imo, like your 20,000+ ones.

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    Character count does seem like a good idea, and seems like a pretty good place to start working out how much the mins really are. For spagging could always list the things you change, don't have to be formal like we do in news pms just list sort of stuff you've done so we know. I think it's a way forward really cause atm it's so ambiguous and like I know people will be missing mins sometimes atm cause they are completely unaware of the values of everything. A thread would be really good too probably for that sort of thing.

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    And yes I would assume 20k characters is more then 1 edit easily lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell View Post
    Character count does seem like a good idea, and seems like a pretty good place to start working out how much the mins really are. For spagging could always list the things you change, don't have to be formal like we do in news pms just list sort of stuff you've done so we know. I think it's a way forward really cause atm it's so ambiguous and like I know people will be missing mins sometimes atm cause they are completely unaware of the values of everything. A thread would be really good too probably for that sort of thing.

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    And yes I would assume 20k characters is more then 1 edit easily lmao
    You don't need us to list them.

    Go on Habboxwiki.com > find the page you want > check history and see the preview of before one of us changed it and after .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samanfa View Post
    You don't need us to list them.

    Go on Habboxwiki.com > find the page you want > check history and see the preview of before one of us changed it and after .
    will that tell you just the changes or give you massive lists of the whole thing? cause playing a game of spot the difference on large pages would be stupid.

    But ye if it does that that's perfect and even better for the idea! (pls bare with me know not much about wiki still )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell View Post
    will that tell you just the changes or give you massive lists of the whole thing? cause playing a game of spot the difference on large pages would be stupid.

    But ye if it does that that's perfect and even better for the idea! (pls bare with me know not much about wiki still )
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