What is your view on cannabis?

[velvet]

Oh well then I believe that's utterly wrong, no-one can try and make cannabis seem like a saint. With any drug you take there are bound to be some issues otherwise it never would have been banned in the first place. If there are studies that say it's fine and others which say it's horrific, it's best to adopt the middle ground and just assume it's ok but not all good. 'Cause yes, if it did have no health issues then it wouldn't make sense to ban it for children.

I would like an explanation for that as well

of course there are health implications with smoking anything, but i'm not just talking about smoking cannabis, i'm talking about the other ways it can be taken, such as a vaporizer or via edibles.

the whole "if it was so gr8 why iz it band" argument isn't really valid, i've already posted why. read my posts in this thread if you want your questions answered, because i've already covered why it's illegal and such. :}


*catches up on thread*...

---------- Post added 08-05-2013 at 09:14 PM ----------

People have said that there are no health issues, and it essentially just makes you calm... So if that's the case, surely they would be okay with giving cannabis to children? For example to calm kids down when they're on a multiple-hour flight to the other side of the world...

Personally I think that's wrong, as I think there are health issues...

i don't agree with giving cannabis to kids, just because it has a calming effect doesn't mean that it should be used to sedate rowdy children.
i think, generally, that these days EVERYTHING is over-medicated, we take a pill or remedy for virtually everything. children are meant to be boisterous.

---------- Post added 08-05-2013 at 09:17 PM ----------

also the whole "ONLY PEOPLE WHO SMOKE IT WANT IT LEGAL" argument is crap.


"Over half of people in Britain want cannabis legalised or its possession decriminalised, according to the results of a poll.According to an Ipsos Mori survey, 53 percent of Britons say they want the drug downgraded and 67 percent say they want a comprehensive overview of the country's approach to drugs.
The survey, published by the Transform Drug Policy Foundation, also found support for cannabis legalisation was high among Conservative voters.
It showed that 50 percent of Conservatives and 55 percent of Labour voters say cannabis should be legally regulated or decriminalised.
The survey found that many tabloid readers also support the findings - 46 perent of Daily Mail readers want the drug made legal.
Just 14 percent of the public and 17 percent of Daily Mail readers support tougher enforcement and heavier penalties for cannabis offences."


---------- Post added 08-05-2013 at 09:18 PM ----------

there you go, everything covered.

[FlyingJesus]

I don't argue that it can be used for benefit in medicine, but why does that mean it should be legalised and people can smoke it whenever they want?

It doesn't mean that considering the inherent dangers of being under the influence at work or while operating machinery it would have to be banned from all public areas including the streets, as despite the potential for getting high off a few fumes as someone walks being small it would still be a worry. All smoking ought to be confined to private areas really in my view but yeah... also I imagine being publicly intoxicated would be legally and societally treated the same way as it currently is with alcohol

pharma companies can't patent an organic material and they couldn't stop people growing it themselves / buying it from other peopel for cheaper.

also if it was legalized hemp would be too, which could revolutionize paper, plastics, clothing etc.

This is pretty much the reply I was going to give when I saw that post lol, also important to note that Big Pharma don't want real cures for cancer as it would cost them far too much, and especially if those treatments could be grown easily at home. Brought up the plastics industry earlier but no-one seemed to want to talk about that cries

they are both used in medical practices, and have no other need to be used.

There are plenty of things that don't NEED to be used in the way they are. The internet and books are both used for research purposes, so anyone caught chatting online or reading books for pleasure should clearly be locked away

Is it not a totally valid point, that if you smoke cannabis you will obviously vote for it to be legalised...

No since it's not a two-way correlation. If it were true that all cannabis smokers wanted it to be legalised AND all persons who want it legalised were cannabis smokers then you might be able to draw up some conclusions about demographics, but unfortunately for you there are people like myself who can see sense and yet don't fit into your make-believe bubble of protesting hippies with blunts hanging out of their mouths

[AgnesIO]

It doesn't mean that considering the inherent dangers of being under the influence at work or while operating machinery it would have to be banned from all public areas including the streets, as despite the potential for getting high off a few fumes as someone walks being small it would still be a worry. All smoking ought to be confined to private areas really in my view but yeah... also I imagine being publicly intoxicated would be legally and societally treated the same way as it currently is with alcohol



This is pretty much the reply I was going to give when I saw that post lol, also important to note that Big Pharma don't want real cures for cancer as it would cost them far too much, and especially if those treatments could be grown easily at home. Brought up the plastics industry earlier but no-one seemed to want to talk about that cries



There are plenty of things that don't NEED to be used in the way they are. The internet and books are both used for research purposes, so anyone caught chatting online or reading books for pleasure should clearly be locked away



No since it's not a two-way correlation. If it were true that all cannabis smokers wanted it to be legalised AND all persons who want it legalised were cannabis smokers then you might be able to draw up some conclusions about demographics, but unfortunately for you there are people like myself who can see sense and yet don't fit into your make-believe bubble of protesting hippies with blunts hanging out of their mouths

I didn't mention what non-smokers would say. I am simply stating that every who smokes it will almost certainly want it legalised - if they don't they are pretty dumb.

[Adam]

Not particularly, legalising would mean to the average smoker it would probably cost more.

I am a non smoker and want it legalised, by the way. However, I would like any health problems caused by this to be subsidised by the smokers themselves (same with alcohol/fatties etc).

[velvet]

Not particularly, legalising would mean to the average smoker it would probably cost more.

I am a non smoker and want it legalised, by the way. However, I would like any health problems caused by this to be subsidised by the smokers themselves (same with alcohol/fatties etc).

lol, trust me. legal weed would be MUCH cheaper than the street values cannabis smokers pay at the moment. since it's not regulated, people get more and more greedy. the price had inflated by 200% in the last 3 years.

[Adam]

lol, trust me. legal weed would be MUCH cheaper than the street values cannabis smokers pay at the moment. since it's not regulated, people get more and more greedy. the price had inflated by 200% in the last 3 years.

It's one that could go either way, I believe if it was made legal the tax would be astronomical.

[velvet]

It's one that could go either way, I believe if it was made legal the tax would be astronomical.

even with crazy tax, the prices at the moment are absolutely absurd.
all you have to do is look at the models of other countries to see how prices would translate.

not to mention the fact that most "hardcore" smokers would grow their own any way.


edit: agree with your earlier point about self inflicted conditions, by the way.

[AgnesIO]

even with crazy tax, the prices at the moment are absolutely absurd.
all you have to do is look at the models of other countries to see how prices would translate.

not to mention the fact that most "hardcore" smokers would grow their own any way.


edit: agree with your earlier point about self inflicted conditions, by the way.

Surely they would make growing your own illegal...

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[Adam]

As much as brewing your own alcohol is illegal, Marketing?

i.e it's not.

[velvet]

Surely they would make growing your own illegal...

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maybe, depends.

even so, it would be a LOT easier to grow your own if it were legal to consume.