US revokes transgender bathroom guidance for schools

[Landon]

Cool story bro

LOL did you just give an excuse for transgender people to switch genders because of other people's medical disorders? How dare you.

[FlyingJesus]

No you absolute cretin, I just showed that XX and XY do not necessarily mean male and female.

[Landon]

I just showed that XX and XY do not necessarily mean male and female.

I think you're using it as an excuse for transsexualism as a way to sway from the fact that people WITHOUT SAID MEDICAL CONDITION are, by blood, male or female.

No you absolute cretin

LOOOOL I've never got that one before.

[lawrawrrr]

genuine thought: what about intersex people who live as one gender but aren't particularly one: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...d-sex-biology/


or people who live as a child as one gender then a medical condition changes them when puberty hits http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2...o-boys-aged-1/


or yknow people who actually are transgender and transition (or do you just deny these people exist/should have the right to live their life)

[FlyingJesus]

Well I think I'm not since we're talking about biological facts at the moment. No need to try telling me what I'm thinking, I know that far better than you can. You made a claim, I proved it wrong. That's got nothing to do with whatever my opinions on wider matters are

[Landon]

Well I think I'm not since we're talking about biological facts at the moment. No need to try telling me what I'm thinking, I know that far better than you can. You made a claim, I proved it wrong. That's got nothing to do with whatever my opinions on wider matters are

Well, you've in general proved yourself wrong. If you don't have a condition and you have your penis surgically removed, you are not a female... Now let's say you have the condition (which I do not deny happens), THEN if you have a removal you would be considered whathaveyou. If we want to talk about the general population then what you are saying is still wrong. You are not a different gender if you have your parts modified..

[FlyingJesus]

No dear, what happened is EXACTLY this:

*You made a claim
*I showed that it was empirically not true

There is no way around it, you can't say "ahhh but abnormal people don't count as human" just because the facts don't line up with your beliefs. The FACT is that XY doesn't 100% mean male and XX doesn't 100% mean female, which is what you claimed. Nothing to do with the rest of the thread or anything else in the world: you were just wrong in your statement.

[Landon]

No dear, what happened is EXACTLY this:

*You made a claim
*I showed that it was empirically not true

There is no way around it, you can't say "ahhh but abnormal people don't count as human" just because the facts don't line up with your beliefs. The FACT is that XY doesn't 100% mean male and XX doesn't 100% mean female, which is what you claimed. Nothing to do with the rest of the thread or anything else in the world: you were just wrong in your statement.

And I quoted when you said that you can have a penis constructed on a woman and then call her a man, and I proved it wrong provided she doesn't have some sort of disease like you mentioned and I agreed upon with you. What more do you need to know?

[FlyingJesus]

You haven't proven anything, you're just saying "WELL that doesn't count". Proof is like when I showed you that scientifically, biologically, reasonably, you are inherently wrong in what your definition of male/female is. Facts are facts all the time, not just when they suit your preconceived ideas.

[lawrawrrr]

Well, you've in general proved yourself wrong. If you don't have a condition and you have your penis surgically removed, you are not a female... Now let's say you have the condition (which I do not deny happens), THEN if you have a removal you would be considered whathaveyou. If we want to talk about the general population then what you are saying is still wrong. You are not a different gender if you have your parts modified..

"condition"= physical condition like one I mentioned or mental 'condition' (what most people would be called "being born in the wrong body")?