The Offical F1 Thread #2

[Kardan]

Yes, Raikkonen, getting that point at the end! I was watching his times close down in the last few laps on the scrolling bar at the bottom, and he passed Bottas and Gutierrez is one corner it seeemed... And he got Hulkenburg at the end! The record could be his!

Well done Rosberg, Red Bull have SO much luck (Safety Car deployment + Red flag for changing tyres)... Sucks for Hammy. But Raikkonen's streak continues...

[xxMATTGxx]

Has any more been said on this tyre test Mercedes did with Pirelli?

[Kardan]

Has any more been said on this tyre test Mercedes did with Pirelli?

Not yet, but the Monaco result will stand because that's not what is being disputed.

As far as I'm aware, if Mercedes are right in saying they got permission from the FIA, it's all legal. But we'll see.

[xxMATTGxx]

Bit of an update by the looks of it:

Mercedes tyre test row referred to the FIA

Mercedes' alleged breach of the Formula 1 regulations with its secret tyre test for Pirelli could now go to the FIA International Tribunal.

Following more than three hours of discussions by the Monaco Grand Prix stewards on Sunday night, they issued a statement stating that a report was being prepared for the FIA .

"After hearing and collecting information the stewards will write a report to the FIA who may bring the matter before the International Tribunal," said the statement.

Mercedes had become the subject of a protest from both Red Bull and Ferrari ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix after it emerged the team had tested for Pirelli with a 2013 car at Barcelona after the Spanish Grand Prix.

Although the team insisted that it had been given authority from the FIA to run the current car in a tyre development test, rival outfits are convinced that the regulations are clear in outlawing any form of in-season testing.

While Nico Rosberg's victory in the Monaco Grand Prix is secure, with the FIA having made the result official, should the team be found in breach of the rules then it could face future sanctions.

Mercedes team principal Ross Brawn said before the outcome of the stewards meeting that he would have been upset if Rosberg's well-earned victory had been taken away from him.

"I would be very disappointed if today's result changes in any way," he said. "I think it was a great day for motor racing and a great day for the team."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107705

[xxMATTGxx]

Errrr oops?

[Kardan]

Errrr oops?

But even if Pirelli offered it to every team, how would that have changed anything? Unless each team did 1000/11 kilometres of testing each, which is slightly pointless.

[xxMATTGxx]

But even if Pirelli offered it to every team, how would that have changed anything? Unless each team did 1000/11 kilometres of testing each, which is slightly pointless.

I think it's now down to about confirmation of the tests and none of them gave it to the FIA blah blah etc etc

[Kardan]

I think it's now down to about confirmation of the tests and none of them gave it to the FIA blah blah etc etc

The issue is that nobody else got the chance to help Pirelli basically. Mercedes and Pirelli could do the testing, as long as every other team were given the same oppourtunity.

So, ask yourself, whose responsibility is it to invite the other teams to a Pirelli test day? Mercedes or Pirelli?

I'd be amazed if Mercedes gets punished.

[xxMATTGxx]

The issue is that nobody else got the chance to help Pirelli basically. Mercedes and Pirelli could do the testing, as long as every other team were given the same oppourtunity.

So, ask yourself, whose responsibility is it to invite the other teams to a Pirelli test day? Mercedes or Pirelli?

I'd be amazed if Mercedes gets punished.

I can see both being punished for some strange reason. FIA is also now denying any knowledge of the test in the first place. But in theory it would be Pirelli at fault as they should have done all that business? I wonder what will happen to them. I know they are also waiting for the contract for next year as well.

[Kardan]

I can see both being punished for some strange reason. FIA is also now denying any knowledge of the test in the first place. But in theory it would be Pirelli at fault as they should have done all that business? I wonder what will happen to them. I know they are also waiting for the contract for next year as well.

I think Pirelli will be gone next year because of all of this frankly. And how the FIA can deny that they permitted the test is beyond me, when they've said they gave permission for it to go ahead as long as all teams had the same oppourtunity An obvious solution would to give a 3 day testing event at Barca for all other teams, but I suppose that won't please some people either