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    And now over here they've started doing what they do in USA which is package every major Blu-ray release with a DVD and a digital copy.

    Pix, what was perfect about a film with an awful script, cookie cutter characters and story stolen from Ferngully, Dances with Wolves and Pochahontas?

    Titanic is number one all because of Leo DiCaprio, and thanks to him that film has acted as the machine that the studio have as their example of why to push the marketing of Avatar like no other film ever made.
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    Oh lush. I dont reckon Avatar will knock Titanic off, if it does it will be by very little. I loved Titanic, and Avatar, and I agree Pix avatar was pretty perfect in my eyes.
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    Great film seen it today, although me and my friends were narrating the whole film into a dirty version was a good laugh, yeah I'm childish "come?, come?" thats all she kept saying haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    And now over here they've started doing what they do in USA which is package every major Blu-ray release with a DVD and a digital copy.

    Pix, what was perfect about a film with an awful script, cookie cutter characters and story stolen from Ferngully, Dances with Wolves and Pochahontas?

    Titanic is number one all because of Leo DiCaprio, and thanks to him that film has acted as the machine that the studio have as their example of why to push the marketing of Avatar like no other film ever made.
    omg can't you ever just accept peoples views instead of criticising everything if you don't agree. your opinion isn't always right fgs i swear thats all i see when you respond to anything film/television related.

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    A stolen story, bad script and cookie cutter characters aren't opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    A stolen story, bad script and cookie cutter characters aren't opinion.
    How can you be so sure about it being stolen? Once the film was released and everyone saw how PERFECT the film was, everyone started saying that the story was stolen and what not. I highly doubt they'd even mention it if the film wasn't as good as it is.You've mentioned 3 stories and i also heard that the producer of The noon universe and the producer of Call me(stories that were ritten back in 1960's) have told media that Cameron stole ideas. Every director could come up with similiar ideas, it happens. A bad script? Which is why it has 1.3 billion views already.
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    Stolen ideas and similar ideas are not the same. I think he probably meant more along the lines of it's similar to other plots. Especially since if Adams complaining that it's similar to all 3 of those films, then surely 2 of those films copied the first one of those made..

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    The story of Avatar is a combination of both Pochahontas and Ferngully. The bad script is evident in the fact that some of the dialogue is no awful and a lot of the action makes no sense. Why would a mech robot have a giant knife? The villain was the most cookie cutter I've seen in a long time, I was quite shocked. Avatar isn't a terrible film, I gave it 3/5 because the visual effects are the greatest of all time, but I can't forgive the recycled story, bad characters and script. I am glad you enjoyed the film, but calling it perfect is just totally beyond me. And I can't be called a James Cameron detractor or what have you as The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day and Aliens are three of my favourite films of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk. View Post
    so i suppose it will be the highest grossing film ever. The high cost of a cinema ticket is one reason i suppose.

    illegal downloading doesnt make that much of a difference i dont think. A least not for films anyway. The other reason that more recent films earn a lot more nowadays is because of all the dfferent formats you can buy on now, as well as more people owning a DVD/blu ray player. you have DVD, blu-ray, digital copies, itunes, rental, digital rental etc. So many more ways than just a tape.
    The figures I gave were only theatrical, not including DVD sales. I think The Lord of the Rings has probably sold the most DVDs, but I'm not sure. It might take a while for Avatar to overtake it considering The Lord of the Rings has had a nice head start with its normal editions, extended editions, limited editions, 3-in-1 editions, etc. I myself have bought the movies twice so I could get the extended editions.

    Also, I agree with Misawa, the film does have its flaws, but despite that I still loved it. I think its more about the experience and in that aspect the film excels greatly. Also, I see a great deal of people hating on the story because it is 'stolen', but its not as if stories cannot be retold. Other films are the greatest influence on a director, so its not surprising so many of them seem alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    Surprise surprise. Two films that really don't deserve their place. 3 of them don't.
    The Dark Knight is better than Pirates of the Caribbean .

    Quote Originally Posted by Pix View Post
    How can you be so sure about it being stolen? Once the film was released and everyone saw how PERFECT the film was, everyone started saying that the story was stolen and what not. I highly doubt they'd even mention it if the film wasn't as good as it is.You've mentioned 3 stories and i also heard that the producer of The noon universe and the producer of Call me(stories that were ritten back in 1960's) have told media that Cameron stole ideas. Every director could come up with similiar ideas, it happens. A bad script? Which is why it has 1.3 billion views already.
    Whether you like it or not, the story is the same as Dances With Wolves and Pochahontas and to be fair, I suppose it was somewhat predictable. But I don't hold this against it at all. When I (an average film goer) was watching it, I was enjoying it so much that I didn't think about what was going to happen next or anything like that. I just kept admiring what I was seeing and I did kind of get lost in their world .

    If you view it from the perspective of a critic, then I can understand why you'd complain, but I just feel sorry for anyone who did so for not having the chance to view it as an average film goer like myself to truly enjoy it for what it is.

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