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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroka View Post
    I don't think I'd care, but in the end I havent had a kid so I wouldnt know how it really is for parents.

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    I wouldn't mind at all. It's my flesh and blood and i would accept any decsion they'd make. Though i would prefere my kids to be bi and not gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    No chance, did you not read what I put?
    I did read what you said, i'd like to know if the pupils she knows know about it and whether or not she has actually had anything happen over it. If you could find out which way it is for sure then it'd be interesting to know.

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    I believe gay adoption would not obstruct the child's well being sufficiently enough to disallow gay adoption altogether.

    It's extremely safe to say that most people would willingly put up with that for the simple reason that they love their parents.
    Sorry you are making excuses there for it, willingly put up with it? - they shouldnt have to put up with it and it is not fair for a child to have to put up with it. Some kids can just let things bounce off them, others take everything very seriously and that can have a big effect on them - especially younger kids.

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    Im absolutely amazed by the amount of disgusting stigma on this forum towards homosexuality. I thought this generation was supposed to be conforming to practical ideas of what gay actually is and why it shouldnt be ridiculed my small minded bigots. "its not natural" - wow what a small minded, ignorant attitude

    Of course id be taken aback if my son/daughter said they were gay, but Id rather they love someone than be cold and alone. At the same time id know that it was nothing to do with my parenting as sexuality is learned and equally discarded on an individual basis. I can't make my offspring be straight, and I can't make them be gay for that matter.

    Id also ask the question if your brother/sister turned out gay how would you want you parents to react to it, and at the same time how would that effect your perception of them. If they alienated and disowned your sibling for their sexuality I'm sure some of the frankly stupid opinions on here would quickly change.
    Thats the opinion some people hold and its entirely within their right to do so.


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    idk how ill react until the time comes rly

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I did read what you said, i'd like to know if the pupils she knows know about it and whether or not she has actually had anything happen over it. If you could find out which way it is for sure then it'd be interesting to know.
    Well, I'm assuming you're making bigger of a deal out of this than it and the problem actually is, so perhaps this has something to do with why this girl hasn't experienced much trouble?

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    Sorry you are making excuses there for it, willingly put up with it? - they shouldnt have to put up with it and it is not fair for a child to have to put up with it. Some kids can just let things bounce off them, others take everything very seriously and that can have a big effect on them - especially younger kids.
    Sometimes you put up with some things and do some things for the people you love? Child or not. As it is incredibly obvious that having a family provides benefits which far surpasses having to put up with immature and moronic remarks made by little kids, I do believe the logic in my preceding post is sound.

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    Thats the opinion some people hold and its entirely within their right to do so.
    That depends. Are we entitled to express our honest opinion backed up with valid reasons: yes. That is our right to do so. Are we allowed to reply to this thread saying we don't want a fairy hanging around our house (I think that's what LuketheDuke was referring to someone posting, not entirely sure) then no. That's stupid and incredibly immature.
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    I wouldn't mind , haha its there choice. can't do anything about it.

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    Although I'd prefer to have straight children, for the hope of blood grand children, it wouldn't really bother me. I mean, as long as they were open about it - I wouldn't want them to feel like they'd have to feel uncomfortable about their sexuality to the point of them having to hide it from me till they have their first relationship or something.


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    Well, I'm assuming you're making bigger of a deal out of this than it and the problem actually is, so perhaps this has something to do with why this girl hasn't experienced much trouble?

    Sometimes you put up with some things and do some things for the people you love? Child or not. As it is incredibly obvious that having a family provides benefits which far surpasses having to put up with immature and moronic remarks made by little kids, I do believe the logic in my preceding post is sound.
    I'd like to know if thats the case because from being a kid myself and knowing what kids are like, especially when younger I pretty much think the kid would experience a lot of trouble over the issue of having two fathers or two mothers.

    That depends. Are we entitled to express our honest opinion backed up with valid reasons: yes. That is our right to do so. Are we allowed to reply to this thread saying we don't want a fairy hanging around our house (I think that's what LuketheDuke was referring to someone posting, not entirely sure) then no. That's stupid and incredibly immature.
    It doesnt matter, its somebody elses opinion and you need to accept that. If somebody just doesnt like gays and doesnt want their son to be gay and states that in this thread then you can challenge it; but to go calling it stupid, immature and thinking it shouldnt be allowed is totally wrong because thats somebody elses opinion and an opinion a lot of people hold hence why the whole coming out thing is such a big issue to gays. If you have a problem with somebodies opinion then challenge it properly but never call for it to not be allowed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    And your point is? - just because something doesnt fit in with your view or has been allowed for a few years does not mean 'I am behind with the times'.

    On the issue of token, where have I said or even hinted that I think that? - the fact is that I have not. I have said very clearly that the rights of children should come before the banner of equality and thats how it should be. Kids get bullied for being fat yes, but in many cases with kids that isnt preventable whereas bullying over having two dads or two mums is preventable. I'm pretty sure aswell that a kid would get a hell of a lot more stick for having gay parents than being fat or wearing glasses because lets be honest here; having two dads or two mums isnt exactly ordinary and most kids wont even of heard of that before.
    In all due respect people, and im talking from personal experience. My brothers dad split up from my mother in the very early nineties, and then came out as homosexual. My brother told a few friends at school when he was in year 7, of secondary school, and word got around. At first, people said the odd comment such as "Is it true your dad is gay?" but he never, ever, got bullied about it. Never. He got people asking awkward questions, yes, such as "does your dad kiss his boyfriend infront of you?" but he just told them straight. (no pun intended).
    My brother had an excellent upbringing with his father and partner.

    Saying that a child would be bullied about having 2 homosexual parent's is like saying a child will be bullied for being ginger. Bullying happens. Its a common fact that most people receive some degree of bullying in their childhood. I understand how you say that equality comes after the welfare of a child, but answer this.

    Would a child prefer to be in a children's home, with no real stable family unit, losing friends (due to them being adopted). No deffinate address, no definate school, a very basic social life.

    Or would a child prefer to live with a homosexual couple, and have a decent and happy lifestyle, and maybe put up with a few biggotry comments from people, just like any other person gets when bullied.

    I have another example, and these are all the sworn truth.
    My grandmother couldn't produce children after she had my mother, and so she adopted. She adopted my uncle Paul who is black. Pauls parent's abused him and his brother and so he was taken into care. Now this is in the 1970's very early like 1972. It was practically unheard of for a white family to have a black child, and it was considered taboo.
    He never got bullied about having white adopted parent's or siblings which where of a different race to him. He loved my grandma and grandad's up bringing and still see's them to this day (except grandma R.I.P). Now the point im making is, I think my uncle would have prefered to be adopted into a white family, and maybe put up with a few racial slurs, then live in a childrens home, constantly moved around, no stable education or stable friends and have the memories of his previous abuse from his parents.

    So basically, people are saying, the "parents" for an adopted child would be 2 straight people, a couple. Im sure the children out their who suffered abuse like my uncle, and have parent's that would rather get drunk than socialise with them, would not be too fussy who their parents where, they just want somebody to call "mum and mum" or "mum and dad" or even "dad and dad". Not some carehome worker.

    Peoples opinions are all valid, however, think outside of the box. Would a child actually care if their adopted parent's where gay? So long as they had someone?.

    Everyone get's bullied or taunted, it's just for different things. I've heard stories of obese children commiting suicide due to severe bullying. But acording to some narrow minded people here, bullying about 2 gay parents would be worse. No. It wouldn't. Bullies will bully people about anything, and will only take it as far as they want to take it. Somebody who is fat could be equally bullied as bad as a child with 2 gay parents. Its all down to the bully, not the victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I'd like to know if thats the case because from being a kid myself and knowing what kids are like, especially when younger I pretty much think the kid would experience a lot of trouble over the issue of having two fathers or two mothers.



    It doesnt matter, its somebody elses opinion and you need to accept that. If somebody just doesnt like gays and doesnt want their son to be gay and states that in this thread then you can challenge it; but to go calling it stupid, immature and thinking it shouldnt be allowed is totally wrong because thats somebody elses opinion and an opinion a lot of people hold hence why the whole coming out thing is such a big issue to gays. If you have a problem with somebodies opinion then challenge it properly but never call for it to not be allowed.
    I really wish you had read my post before responding. If people want to post saying they don't like gay people then I don't care. What I said in my last post was just not to go about it in a rude way.
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    I see some posts saying that they'd like straight children just to get grandchildren, but gosh.. Do you live in the stone age?
    I'm gay, and I have every intention of having children one day. In todays world there are lots of options for gay couples wanting children, so I wouldn't consider that an obstacle really.

    As for the question if I'd be ok with gay children.. I guess it's kinda obvious that it really wouldn't be a problem at all, haha.

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