
People put on a trial shouldn't need to have the two weeks to learn though - obviously they should learn something during the trial, but they should already be perfectly competent to DJ.
i know DJs from the past who have been trialists before and had no expierence and only just downloaded sam broadcaster and applied and ended up being really good DJs .
Why should they be 'perfectly competent to DJ'? The 2 week trial could be a time used for DJ's to adapt to the surroundings and make sure they know how to improve or do their shows for future (if needed). I don't see anything about being competent and not everyone is as successful as you think, sadly.![]()
at 11 years old I wasn't planning on learning how to use SAM Broadcaster on my own. it would've been nearly impossible. and sure it's a pain to teach someone but at least give them a chance. they might be a good DJ and a fast learner, and they could pick up how to use it straight away -- would you really want to turn them away because they just have never used it before?
Honestly - if you can't use SAM, you shouldn't be a DJ here. I don't mean to offend you, because you're a brilliant DJ, but we're the biggest and best fansite - or at least that's what we aim for, and therefore shouldn't be hiring complete noobs. If you can't use SAM, no matter how good your voice is, the simple fact is, go away - learn, then come back. We're not saying "no, we don't want you" and you could even say to them "come back when you can use SAM because I love your voice" or whatever.
That's not exactly fair either. There could be more that are good than that or even more that are bad. Best ten wouldn't be as hard, but it might not be fair to those 2-3 who don't get passed just because you need to fail some. If they're all good, pass them allTake the best 10 applicants, stick them on a trial radio for 5-10 minutes and choose the best 6-7 few for 2 week trial to see how they cope in front of 100 listeners. Then pass the best 4-5.
@Milestone...
You couldn't have possibly been more ignorant just then. The two week trial is the DJ's time to figure out what the hell they're doing. If they go from being not so great to pretty damn good in two weeks, which is DEFINITELY possible, why wouldn't you keep them around? Some people just don't have the experience, as James said, end of. They come here as newbies and end up being some of the most memorable, longest, and/or best DJ's. I personally was one of them, applying with very very very minimal experience at 11 years old when applications were still extremely difficult to get through, and I was awful when I first came here. Over time I learned how to really DJ, and now I'm here as a senior member of staff, and been here for nearly 2 and a half years?People put on a trial shouldn't need to have the two weeks to learn though - obviously they should learn something during the trial, but they should already be perfectly competent to DJ.You can't tell someone that they need to know how to DJ as soon as they get here. You miss out on a lot of great opportunities for awesome DJ's when you do. Obviously not all of them that come in with no experience are going to be good or necessarily even stick around very long, but we can't turn them all away. It's not likely that the person is going to want to wait anyways, so they'll just apply somewhere else, get in, and end up loving it there. You'll probably say "Oh, then we didn't need them anyways because they obviously didn't want to be here bad enough," but the reality of it is that it would've been our fault if that happened since we wouldn't take the time to let them learn. Most DJ's improve loads when on their trial anyway. We don't live in a perfect world. It's going to be one in a million when you find a perfect DJ who comes in, knows how to work SAM, sounds good on air, has experience and doesn't make very many mistakes. People are bound to make mistakes, especially when they're new at something, so why be shallow and make the rules to applying and getting a trial so strict?
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Last edited by ,Lexiilu; 17-01-2011 at 03:18 AM.
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I'm know I'm new to Habbox live but I've been "DJ'ing" for quite a while with roles in management on various sites. I agree with the term DJ sounding maybe childish but at the end of the day listeners call it DJ'ing and i often hear "when are you DJ'ing next" and as someone else said it is purely a habbo thing so i see no harm in being called DJ.
As for having a variety of music on your show well lets be real here for a second. If a listener aged 14-17 hears 80's music will they stay tuned in? I've noticed people tuning out when I've played 90's music. The majority of music requested on habboxlive is new music , I would love to have a variety of music on my show but i really think it will lose more listeners in my opinion.
Last edited by Inspiration; 17-01-2011 at 10:36 AM.
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I agree with what you said here. I normally try to play something old in my shows and i've always noticed it loses listeners and +repI'm know I'm knew to Habbox live but I've been "DJ'ing" for quite a while with roles in management on various sites. I agree with the term DJ sounding maybe childish but at the end of the day listeners call it DJ'ing and i often hear "when are you DJ'ing next" and as someone else said it is purely a habbo thing so i see no harm in being called DJ.
As for having a variety of music on your show well lets be real here for a second. If a listener aged 14-17 hears 80's music will they stay tuned in? I've noticed people tuning out when I've played 90's music. The majority of music requested on habboxlive is new music , I would love to have a variety of music on my show but i really think it will lose more listeners in my opinion.![]()
I'm reading this thread and I think to myself, yeah you can give ideas and such some are helpful but if we put them into place would you tune in? No, and im not trying to offend you but I probably wouldn't even tune in myself if I wasn't a dj. I often am getting annoyed at some of the childish things to do with HXL and it bothers me, so sometimes I try talk about whats happening in the news or sports or something, ask for peoples opinions and such, and then all I get in the shoutouts line is "DO A COMP!" We have to be honest that the younger people are more appealed and commited to tuning in often as they can win furni, dance with the dj's (who in their eyes are e-famous) and such, I don't think we will ever be able get a higher/smarter group of listeners (thats just an average of listeners, many are quite smart)
As for merging habbox and habboxlive sites, unless you improve the habbox site dramatically, I'd rage so much if you did this. The habbox.com website is frankly terrible. two of my most used websites are hxl and hxf, I haven't been on habbox for 3 weeks, why? because I dislike going on it. I find it slow, often parts of it not working causing me to refresh a couple of times, i like the simplicity of the habboxlive site. BUT I do think that there needs to be more of an incentive for a habboxlive user to join the forum, as many listeners I have spoken to have never used hxf.
Thirdly, I thought i'd just mention that I feel you are all being way to hard on gemma, you cannot compare her to the other managers such as events or comp managers as her job has a lot of work, a very different work as well, she has to look after the HXL site, the panel, the dj's behaving, senior dj's being avaliable, DJ's being avaliable, making sure people are covering events, and such. all of those things take at least 10 minutes each day, some even take around 1 hour. she has to pm DJ's, reply to PM's from fans, those wanting jobs (even when apps arn't open as there are a lot of them.) I did complain about hxl the other day to oli about the state of the dj's privately (I did not want to kick up a fuss like this thread as I felt it was unfair on gemma as she does her job amazingly and I know that) So before you compare HXL to other depts remember there are a lot more aspects to run and a lot more staff to take care of.
As for the state of the current DJ's I know a lot are **** but at HXL we have to take what we can get, and DJ's do get better. I remember when a DJ named gally79 joined habbox, she had no clue what she was doing and was still using the ol' shoutcast. she got heaps of warnings in the first couple of months but by the end of the year she was a head DJ and by far the best. DJ's do get better, I would like to see more of the DJ's practising, I think theres somewhere where you can dj on thats free, that way DJ's will improve dramatically. You may also be comparing today's DJs to the older DJ's but that cannot be done. Habbo's average user age is a lot lower now days and Ill be honest older DJ's will usually be better, as they are more mature and can often cover a broad range of topics on the radio.
I'll finish there, you may think im bias and yes I am slightly, Gemma is one of my best mates on the net and I have been on habboxlive for sometime, but I am often complaining to a lot of people about how bad some thngs are with hxl and gemma knows that, but would I change the department completely like some of these people are saying? no, never, I love habboxlive, and thats why I have stayed there for this long.
Last edited by ihatehash; 17-01-2011 at 11:36 AM.
Well said Mike , Gemma is doing an amazing job with habbox live but the DJ situation needs to be sorted... I'm sick of hearing complaints about other DJ's playing swears etc... I think it's maybe stupidity on the DJ's part except for an odd time where a DJ plays a swear by accident , Which then there is a set guideline to follow ie take song off and apoligize.I'm reading this thread and I think to myself, yeah you can give ideas and such some are helpful but if we put them into place would you tune in? No, and im not trying to offend you but I probably wouldn't even tune in myself if I wasn't a dj. I often am getting annoyed at some of the childish things to do with HXL and it bothers me, so sometimes I try talk about whats happening in the news or sports or something, ask for peoples opinions and such, and then all I get in the shoutouts line is "DO A COMP!" We have to be honest that the younger people are more appealed and commited to tuning in often as they can win furni, dance with the dj's (who in their eyes are e-famous) and such, I don't think we will ever be able get a higher/smarter group of listeners (thats just an average of listeners, many are quite smart)
As for merging habbox and habboxlive sites, unless you improve the habbox site dramatically, I'd rage so much if you did this. The habbox.com website is frankly terrible. two of my most used websites are hxl and hxf, I haven't been on habbox for 3 weeks, why? because I dislike going on it. I find it slow, often parts of it not working causing me to refresh a couple of times, i like the simplicity of the habboxlive site. BUT I do think that there needs to be more of an incentive for a habboxlive user to join the forum, as many listeners I have spoken to have never used hxf.
Thirdly, I thought i'd just mention that I feel you are all being way to hard on gemma, you cannot compare her to the other managers such as events or comp managers as her job has a lot of work, a very different work as well, she has to look after the HXL site, the panel, the dj's behaving, senior dj's being avaliable, DJ's being avaliable, making sure people are covering events, and such. all of those things take at least 10 minutes each day, some even take around 1 hour. she has to pm DJ's, reply to PM's from fans, those wanting jobs (even when apps arn't open as there are a lot of them.) I did complain about hxl the other day to oli about the state of the dj's privately (I did not want to kick up a fuss like this thread as I felt it was unfair on gemma as she does her job amazingly and I know that) So before you compare HXL to other depts remember there are a lot more aspects to run and a lot more staff to take care of.
As for the state of the current DJ's I know a lot are **** but at HXL we have to take what we can get, and DJ's do get better. I remember when a DJ named gally79 joined habbox, she had no clue what she was doing and was still using the ol' shoutcast. she got heaps of warnings in the first couple of months but by the end of the year she was a head DJ and by far the best. DJ's do get better, I would like to see more of the DJ's practising, I think theres somewhere where you can dj on thats free, that way DJ's will improve dramatically. You may also be comparing today's DJs to the older DJ's but that cannot be done. Habbo's average user age is a lot lower now days and Ill be honest older DJ's will usually be better, as they are more mature and can often cover a broad range of topics on the radio.
I'll finish there, you may think im bias and yes I am slightly, Gemma is one of my best mates on the net and I have been on habboxlive for sometime, but I am often complaining to a lot of people about how bad some thngs are with hxl and gemma knows that, but would I change the department completely like some of these people are saying? no, never, I love habboxlive, and thats why I have stayed there for this long.
Another thing needed to be improved is event notice on DJ panel. They are just not posted??
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Since we're talking about habboxlive here, what's happened to the site? The navigators changed which is silly since you have to click for the nav to drop down and the content on the homepage doesn't show until you view another page and go back to it? :S
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This feature doesn't work at the moment. I've been trying to add them but they just don't show up. DJ's are going to have to take the initiative for a bit until it works again and check the threads themselves![]()
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