Homosexuality in the eyes of God

[Punky]

Oh we dont need a time machine, We have teliscopes and the speed of light, since light takes so long to reach us, say billions of years, when it does what is shown is the universe billions of years ago... far back enogh in fact to see the beginning of the universe

Okay so thats true light speed and all that jive...So why do we only have theories? Why hasn't someone just gone.. Ooo look I can see how the universe was created by looking through my telescope... and then show it to everyone???? Answer me that then?

[Mentor]

Okay so thats true light speed and all that jive...So why do we only have theories? Why hasn't someone just gone.. Ooo look I can see how the universe was created by looking through my telescope... and then show it to everyone???? Answer me that then?

Becuse im perfectly capable of looking at a car, or even driveing one without knowing how it works, how all the componets fit together, the mechanics of stearing, gears, the engine etc "/
We form a theary based on the evidance, we test it, if its right we test it more, if its wrong, we adapt it and test it again, so we always slowly get towards the truth.
A scientific theary is not the same as a normal theary "/

[Punky]

I'll seriously gunna leave this now lol, i cant be bothered with this ne more.

[Mentor]

I'll seriously gunna leave this now lol, i cant be bothered with this ne more.

Technicaly speaking? would god actaly have eyes?

[FlyingJesus]

Beliveing you are flying and flying are very differnt... Alot of drunks may think there petting pink eliphants.. those pink eliphants still aint real "/

They may not be real to you, but to whoever sees them they are very real. Who's to say that "tricks of the mind" are not actually alterations to reality? Belief is a big thing that can alter perception of reality - any hypnotist can tell you that.

Well actaly its quite easy, and god looses it. A square is a shape with 4 sides, god cannot create a square with 3 sides, or it ceases to be a square, althogh he can make somone belive the 3 sided shape is a square it will not actaly be so.
Such as He can not make it so that i never existed, since by existing now it would be impossible, regaurdless of the power, closes it delusion of many people and himself "/

Congratulations on completely missing my point. Omnipotency means that you can do anything, no matter how many paradoxes it crosses, no matter how much logic it craps on. There's no way to imagine a 3-sided square, like you said, because we'd know it to be a triangle, but omnipotency would allow such a thing to still be a square. It's beyond understanding, beyond anything that you or I could possibly be taught. Omnipotency therefore is an argument which cannot be overcome.

God never said anything about homosexuality? the bible was written by people, its there opinions not gods.

The Bible is supposedly the word of God, written by prophets who scribed God's message. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevent, the point is that the Bible clearly states that a man "laying" with another man is a sin. I really couldn't care less who agrees with that or not, I personally don't care who you do or where you stick it, but trying to argue that the Bible doesn't say something when it does is really quite pointless.

Even the bible doesnt clame its wrong "/ even in the old testiment which clames selling your daughter as a slave is right "/

Yes it does, as I stated above. Also, you keep referring to this point about selling your daughter into slavery, just because something isn't socially acceptable now doesn't mean that it doesn't count as religious text any more.

[Mentor]

They may not be real to you, but to whoever sees them they are very real. Who's to say that "tricks of the mind" are not actually alterations to reality? Belief is a big thing that can alter perception of reality - any hypnotist can tell you that.

I know but someones perseption of reality is based on relaity, not the other way around, reality is unchanged.
Becuse you belive somthing doesnt mean that thing is real, only your quite deluded...

Congratulations on completely missing my point. Omnipotency means that you can do anything, no matter how many paradoxes it crosses, no matter how much logic it craps on.

No it doesnt, it means all powerful...

There's no way to imagine a 3-sided square, like you said, because we'd know it to be a triangle, but omnipotency would allow such a thing to still be a square.

Square is a consept, The name square can be altered, the consept cant. its a priori. You can clame its so, but it can never be so, since the consept is relative to us, and hence are own understandings of the consept are what assign it the word by which it is refered, so god could make it so we call 3 sided shapes sqaures, but he could never make a 3 sided shape meet the consept of a square, he could make people belive it did, but it still would not.

It's beyond understanding, beyond anything that you or I could possibly be taught. Omnipotency therefore is an argument which cannot be overcome.

Actaly thats free choise, and its quite easy overcome, as ive shown 3 times now...

The Bible is supposedly the word of God, written by prophets who scribed God's message. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevent, the point is that the Bible clearly states that a man "laying" with another man is a sin. I really couldn't care less who agrees with that or not, I personally don't care who you do or where you stick it, but trying to argue that the Bible doesn't say something when it does is really quite pointless.

God wrote 10 commandments, not the bible.
And it doesnt cleary state that? ainchent hebrew is highly context sencetive most words can be read in many many diffent ways. makeing the entire text highly ambuguios. And that still has nothing to do with homosexualty, thats about haveing sex.. or at least thats how its commonly interpited.

The same part also cleary says your going to hell if you miss your weekly animal sacrivise, or if you fail to stone crimals to death, as well as alot of helpful advice on selling slaves, or your daughter for that matter...

Yes it does, as I stated above. Also, you keep referring to this point about selling your daughter into slavery, just because something isn't socially acceptable now doesn't mean that it doesn't count as religious text any more.

So you support selling children as slaves? o.0 Even though the new testiment contrasdictis this compleaty...
If you think slavery is accepatble behavior i worry for you...

[Nightrose]

why have there been loads of posts about god and sins recntly and yes i think it is seen as a sin

[Virgin Mary]

God is more or less something that cannot be overcome. Because God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent he can basically defy anything. He created logic (or more so that logic is a result of his creation) therefore he can defy logic.

[Mentor]

why have there been loads of posts about god and sins recntly and yes i think it is seen as a sin

Sin is somthing objectionable by a deity, if god dont exist, Sins dont ether "/

plus most the anti gay stuff in the bible is umbiguos, out of context and crap "/

God is more or less something that cannot be overcome. Because God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent he can basically defy anything. He created logic (or more so that logic is a result of his creation) therefore he can defy logic.

Could god make it so you had never existed. Since your existing now thats immposible, since althogh he can make you stop existing, you have existed for this time, so dispite any power its compleaty immposible for it to be so that you had never existed "/ it may be as if you had never existed, but god would know you had by his action meaning the fact could not be changed.

[Craig]

why have there been loads of posts about god and sins recntly and yes i think it is seen as a sin

Thats rather an irrelevant question,you could equally say 'Why have their been so many Music posts'.