Anyone Else Sick Of This World Of Hypocrisy?

[Concentric2]

i'm not sure that i should get involved in this arguement as it's a bit.... un-winable :rolleyes:
all i'd like to say is that this is a rediculous thing to say;

if we stopped mass producing cows/chickens etc, then we would free up alot of water/grain/soy bean that could be converted to food

In a way that's like saying "if we kill all the stupid people there'd be more food for everyone else and the world would be a better place".
Also, clearly we feed the animals with grain and water and so on so that they will grow into more food, so the grain and water are not wasted.

[Ezzie.]

i'm not sure that i should get involved in this arguement as it's a bit.... un-winable :rolleyes:
all i'd like to say is that this is a rediculous thing to say;

In a way that's like saying "if we kill all the stupid people there'd be more food for everyone else and the world would be a better place".
Also, clearly we feed the animals with grain and water and so on so that they will grow into more food, so the grain and water are not wasted.

Well considering the meat is going to us and not the other countries who are starving and in this country we could live quite happily without meat then yeah it is a waste :rolleyes:

Read previous posts and i agreed with entor that, this point was invalid.

[Concentric2]

Well considering the meat is going to us and not the other countries who are starving and in this country we could live quite happily without meat then yeah it is a waste :rolleyes:

Read previous posts and i agreed with entor that, this point was invalid.

ok, i've been dragged into this now

My arguement there would be that in any society you're going to get people less well off than others. I think it's a bit ignorant of anyone who hasn't done a lot of research into the economics of African countries to assume that their positions are much to do with the developed world.
In my opinion, Britain at least does more than enough to help these countries in the form of debt relief, aid and so on - http://www.data.org/worldwide/uk/
I think it would be foolish of us to spend our lives worrying about other people elsewhere in the world that don't have what we have. It seems... "harsh", i guess, but in reality it would be impossible to give everyone in the world equal opportunities, food, water etc.
Even if we did take all the grain/whatever that we feed our animals in a year and give it to African countries to eat instead, it would last them about a day. Sending them food isn't the answer, we need to help them make their own. That has nothing to do with whether we eat meat.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If we are all supposed to be equal and have the same things then that's communism.

I stand for Capitalism, you get were you are by working hard and working your way up.

People CANNOT all have PS2's, the world can not ALL HAVE enough food.

It won't happen, the world will always have poor areas.

[Ezzie.]

ok, i've been dragged into this now

My arguement there would be that in any society you're going to get people less well off than others. I think it's a bit ignorant of anyone who hasn't done a lot of research into the economics of African countries to assume that their positions are much to do with the developed world.
In my opinion, Britain at least does more than enough to help these countries in the form of debt relief, aid and so on - http://www.data.org/worldwide/uk/
I think it would be foolish of us to spend our lives worrying about other people elsewhere in the world that don't have what we have. It seems... "harsh", i guess, but in reality it would be impossible to give everyone in the world equal opportunities, food, water etc.
Even if we did take all the grain/whatever that we feed our animals in a year and give it to African countries to eat instead, it would last them about a day. Sending them food isn't the answer, we need to help them make their own. That has nothing to do with whether we eat meat.

Yeah good point man, and indeed if we sent them the grain it would only be a temporary solution (but alas they wont accept the food anyway - they want tools) but there's other problems to eating meat such as the cows exertion of green house gases which I said somewhere else (too tired to explain again )

Oh and also about the money we're sending to Africa.. how much goes to the people do you think? =/ Whole place is run by dictators :@

I guess it's all a choice in what kind of lifestyle you want to lead but sometimes it doesn't help showing a bit of compassion towards a cause.

If we are all supposed to be equal and have the same things then that's communism.

I stand for Capitalism, you get were you are by working hard and working your way up.

People CANNOT all have PS2's, the world can not ALL HAVE enough food.

It won't happen, the world will always have poor areas.

One of the reasons Africa's still starving is because of the leader's of the *states* (can't remember if they class the different states in Africa as countries) are mostly corrupt =/ all the money goes to them instead of the people which is why the place is so ****** up ;/

You say "working hard and working on the way up" how is that possible in a country where if you work incredibly hard you still get peanuts? That's the flaw with capitalism..

[-:Undertaker:-]

I know they are corrupt.

I didn't support a war against Saddam but i'd support a war against Robert Mugarbe who is so evil.

Africa was better under the Empire/British Control but they kicked us out as they wanted to be independant so it's partly their fault that this all happend, they brought it on themselves.

[Ezzie.]

I know they are corrupt.

I didn't support a war against Saddam but i'd support a war against Robert Mugarbe who is so evil.

Africa was better under the Empire/British Control but they kicked us out as they wanted to be independant so it's partly their fault that this all happend, they brought it on themselves.

Aye, can be looked at two ways- British empire came in, made the country independent on them, then were kind of hopeless when they left...

[Demynx]

Well global warming may be happening but I think the stories they make up and whats happening in the next 50-100 years is total crap, its just going through a phase, mabye there will be an iceage soon, or a El Niño, who knows, I mostly agree with Gomme Inc, meat is good for you, infact most animals eat meat so its no excuse for us not to eat it.

[RedStratocas]

I noticed a something kind of ironic a few days ago. When the Virginia Tech shooting was being reported on TV, the 32 people killed etc, at the bottom of the screen with the scrolling news, there was a story about a bombing in Iraq killed 150 people, but there was no mention of it in the actual news until hours later. It really isnt hypocrisy or anything, but it does kind of show the unbalance. Everyone always talks about how the media doesnt report the good news in Iraq, but what good comes out of hundreds of people dying?

[Ezzie.]

Well global warming may be happening but I think the stories they make up and whats happening in the next 50-100 years is total crap, its just going through a phase, mabye there will be an iceage soon, or a El Niño, who knows, I mostly agree with Gomme Inc, meat is good for you, infact most animals eat meat so its no excuse for us not to eat it.

Thats conclusive evidence rofl.:rolleyes:

Remember when that news reading read about war of the worlds? And everybody thought aliens were coming?

The majority doesn't always show conclusive proof ^_^


And I completely agree with you strat. Seems to be a real balance problem at the moment =/