European Election Results 2009

[LuketheDuke]

Your completely ignoring my argument and turning it on its head.

I make the suggestion that its a good thing that well qualified candidates for jobs in Britain can be employed from whatever background, and organisations which monitor this are a good thing.

Yet theres a suggestion that organisations such as these discriminate against caucasian nationals when all they promote is a level playing field for everyone, women included? That it what I do not understand.

[Fez]

I just have to post this as I actually laughed at this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8091605.stm

It's also ironic that Nick Griffen said himself, after the incident, that it "was a sad day for British democracy."

LOL

[-:Undertaker:-]

Your completely ignoring my argument and turning it on its head.

I make the suggestion that its a good thing that well qualified candidates for jobs in Britain can be employed from whatever background, and organisations which monitor this are a good thing.

Yet theres a suggestion that organisations such as these discriminate against caucasian nationals when all they promote is a level playing field for everyone, women included? That it what I do not understand.

My point is, I can't seem to gather what your stance is on it, that it does not matter what background you have, it matters on your skills, and hiring more MP's/people who are black/asian just because they are black/asian is wrong.

I just have to post this as I actually laughed at this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8091605.stm

It's also ironic that Nick Griffen said himself, after the incident, that it "was a sad day for British democracy."

LOL

Indeed it is a sad day, because people who have covered slimy Labour ministers with green custard before have been arrested, yet I do not see the police arresting people in this case/protecting the BNP as they would with Labour or any of the mainstream partys.

[LuketheDuke]

Im trying to point out that the argument you make about organisations such as Black Unions within the police force make sure that the best people get the jobs when your trying to ram the fact home that for some reason their unfair.

I come from no stance with this argument I just think your incorperating your right wing stance into matters and interpreting them in a way in which only you see fit.

Also the person who threw green custard at peter mandelson claimed it was "acid" so was detained on that basis. I have no sympathy for Nick Griffin being egged as he has exploited the British public and denied the Holocaust.

[-:Undertaker:-]

My point is very simple, we do not need black unions in a multi-cultural, non-apartheid society just like we do not need white unions and all the rest of it. I am using common sense, because until black unions and so on are abolished then the BNP will keep gaining votes.

That woman did not claim it was acid, acid is not thick and does not have the substance of custard so please don't make the story up. We fought two world wars to be able to say what we want, distasteful his comments may be, he has a right to say them, just like various tv programs have the right to say 9/11 was a set up by the US government.

We fought two world wars for a reason, not so our political elite could pick and choose what we hear - which is exactly what we were fighting.

[LuketheDuke]

Didnt actually make that up mate, researched it and watched a segment from Newsnight that looked into it.

And your still completely ignoring my point. Unions help equality and in this country the so called "WASP's" still walk into many jobs despite there being far better alternatives, I did a coursework piece on that too so dont dismiss it either.

And are you aware that we fought two world wars, the second one in particular against forces who purged the innocent? Therefore when he makes claims rejecting that the genocide in Eastern Europe against Jewish people he's insulting the principle on which we fought WWII.

[le harry]

queef.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Didnt actually make that up mate, researched it and watched a segment from Newsnight that looked into it.

And your still completely ignoring my point. Unions help equality and in this country the so called "WASP's" still walk into many jobs despite there being far better alternatives, I did a coursework piece on that too so dont dismiss it either.

And are you aware that we fought two world wars, the second one in particular against forces who purged the innocent? Therefore when he makes claims rejecting that the genocide in Eastern Europe against Jewish people he's insulting the principle on which we fought WWII.

You think green custard looks like acid which is mostly transparent in colour? - you need your eyes checked out.

I couldn't care less to be frank whether or not you've wrote a hunded page dossier on the subject or not, it doesn't mean your argument is automcatically correct. Often when people are in need of backup in a discussion they will say something like "I have done homework on it" or "I visited the European Parliament" - oh so that makes you correct then.

We fought two world wars for freedom yes, and the freedom to choose and the freedom to speech. Either you can accept attacks on the BNP but also accept attacks on Labour ministers OR you can not allow attacks on either of them.

We don't need minority groups or anything like that, a waste of money and quite frankly if I was a black police officer I would be ashamed of the apartheid that this government has created in the United Kingdom.

[jam666]

Didnt actually make that up mate, researched it and watched a segment from Newsnight that looked into it.

And your still completely ignoring my point. Unions help equality and in this country the so called "WASP's" still walk into many jobs despite there being far better alternatives, I did a coursework piece on that too so dont dismiss it either.

And are you aware that we fought two world wars, the second one in particular against forces who purged the innocent? Therefore when he makes claims rejecting that the genocide in Eastern Europe against Jewish people he's insulting the principle on which we fought WWII.

Just because you watched something from a TV show does not make it 100% fact. Also, you did a piece of coursework on the issue? That doesnt mean its true either. Please use FACTS not opinions.

We fought two world wars to ensure FREEDOM for everyone and to establish EQUALITY. Everyone has their right to be who or what they want to be without question but when segregation happens, for example forming a race only group like the BNP or whatever organisation. People start to hate and this is the CAUSE of segregation because of people from these organisations. EVERYONE is equal and was EQUAL until people created this only and that only groups which only helps to support the fact that people are one thing and other people are another.

I and im sure that 99.9% of other people treat everyone equally, however its the 0.01% who try and make life hard for each other.

[LuketheDuke]

Just because you watched something from a TV show does not make it 100% fact. Also, you did a piece of coursework on the issue? That doesnt mean its true either. Please use FACTS not opinions.

We fought two world wars to ensure FREEDOM for everyone and to establish EQUALITY. Everyone has their right to be who or what they want to be without question but when segregation happens, for example forming a race only group like the BNP or whatever organisation. People start to hate and this is the CAUSE of segregation because of people from these organisations. EVERYONE is equal and was EQUAL until people created this only and that only groups which only helps to support the fact that people are one thing and other people are another.

I and im sure that 99.9% of other people treat everyone equally, however its the 0.01% who try and make life hard for each other.

If I put my own opinion into a piece of legitimate coursework and tried to pass it off as a fact Id get penalized, so I dont know where this argument or the one above comes from, sounds like your chumming up on me just because Ive done some actual research on the subject.

I really cant be bothered to argue anymore as I think anything that upsets the right wing opinion of some people can't be tolerated or met with constructive debate, it only gets rubbished or insulted.