This forum is full of sickos

[Catzsy]

No not really, i don't see that as some sort of abuse.

Tbh some of the staff on here are quite frankly immature... and can't handle situations properly.

If i had the power to sack and ban members. At least 10-15 staff would of gone and about 40-50 forum members would of been Ip banned.
Obviously Habbox would take much action as most of the ppl who would of got banned pay for habbox donation...

But the staff should lead an example and i don't think no one did last night or even today to try and calm the situation down, and stop these stupid comments going on.

Same goes to the forum members, there's no need to make jokes about a person who's died. Really shows how narrow-minded you are..

Let's hope he don't come and haunt you tonight...

I am not sure if there were that many on last night, Clowgon but I will say whether somebody is VIP/Donator or not does not even figure into the equation, ever on this forum. As I said nobody is going to agree on this. The situation was calmed down last night with a very sensible decision by Matt Garner but it is a double edged sword. Make a decision for either camp in this and you risk alienating the other half of the forum. It's a very emotive issue with no clear cut answer.

[Sammeth.]

Here's a crazy thought, why not make a rule that says we can't make fun of dead people. It seems pretty obvious but apparently some people can't understand that when dealing with a touchy situation such as death, it's going to be very easy to offend someone else.
Different people have had different experiences with death here. I imagine a handful of users (especially some of the ones making the immature jokes) haven't really experienced a friend/family member or someone they idolize die, because HxF is mostly just teenagers. Therefore, when something like this happens some users don't know how to react, and they end up making childish jokes that upsets everyone else.

Oh, so him not affecting your life gives you the right to make stupid jokes about him now that he's dead? I don't think his family would be impressed with you, at all. I'm kind of disappointed, I thought HxF users were better than that.

You'll never avoid jokes, there are jokes on every single subject matter so saying specific (clean) jokes can't be said is a bit over the top in my opinion.

To the bit in bold, I've lost someone incredibly close to me and I made "immature" jokes. Its not for you to say waht the right way to react to something is as people all have their own individual way of coping with certain things. The death of someone close to me is in no way comparable to the death of Michael Jackson.

[luce]

Who cares? If any other paedo died there would be celebrations

You really do need to open your eyes. was he EVER convicted with hard evidence of being a pedofile. what do you know about him, what the tabloids have told you. So know more then me i'm just not as niave(sp) as to believe it.

In all honesty Sammeth posting that is his opinion. i still don't think it's right but what ever you can't pick on him becuase he's AGM he should have a certain level of maturity as should all staff but he's not like immune to humor coz he's AGM lol

I didn't like MJ and don't care that he's dead makes no diffrence to my day to day life but i won't be going around making jibes over a dead man/

[buttons]

Here's a crazy thought, why not make a rule that says we can't make fun of dead people. It seems pretty obvious but apparently some people can't understand that when dealing with a touchy situation such as death, it's going to be very easy to offend someone else.
Different people have had different experiences with death here. I imagine a handful of users (especially some of the ones making the immature jokes) haven't really experienced a friend/family member or someone they idolize die, because HxF is mostly just teenagers. Therefore, when something like this happens some users don't know how to react, and they end up making childish jokes that upsets everyone else.





Oh, so him not affecting your life gives you the right to make stupid jokes about him now that he's dead? I don't think his family would be impressed with you, at all. I'm kind of disappointed, I thought HxF users were better than that.

Don't be so patronizing please, hxf users better than having a different humour? Seriously, what is so hard to understand? Everyone's different, get over it. You talk **** by the way, because we're teenagers (why do you refer to everyone as teenagers, aren't you one too? not that you tell your age) you think we can't deal with deaths 'properly' or have never experienced any??? That's ********, I have had a few people close to me die and this is the way I deal with it, make light of the situation as I've said before. There is no law or nothing about making fun of a dead person I would be really disappointed if staff ever made it into a rule.

No not really, i don't see that as some sort of abuse.

Tbh some of the staff on here are quite frankly immature... and can't handle situations properly.

If i had the power to sack and ban members. At least 10-15 staff would of gone and about 40-50 forum members would of been Ip banned.

Obviously Habbox would take much action as most of the ppl who would of got banned pay for habbox donation...

But the staff should lead an example and i don't think no one did last night or even today to try and calm the situation down, and stop these stupid comments going on.

Same goes to the forum members, there's no need to make jokes about a person who's died. Really shows how narrow-minded you are..

Let's hope he don't come and haunt you tonight...

:eusa_thin I think I handle things pretty well, that's why I can laugh and joke and not take things seriously which is better than can be said about many others, there is not a PROPER way to grieve there are just different ways. You can NOT ban/sack anyone for having different views and opinions, that's called corruption.

[Clowgon]

I am not sure if there were that many on last night, Clowgon but I will say whether somebody is VIP/Donator or not does not even figure into the equation, ever on this forum. As I said nobody is going to agree on this. The situation was calmed down last night with a very sensible decision by Matt Garner but it is a double edged sword. Make a decision for either camp in this and you risk alienating the other half of the forum. It's a very emotive issue with no clear cut answer.

As in staff? Maybe i went over the top a bit there but there was 50 members who was viewing the MJ thread last night and half of them was making sick jibes.

Habbox has a very small member community about 150 on average so obviously if they were to be a few bans, say 40-50 then obvs forum would be dead... Probs end up closing....

But i thought more could of been done, a reminded sent to everyone that Joke/jibes about dead people will not be tolerated and if more of these were to occur action will be taken.

Do staff even had regular meetings? Or do you just get on with job?

:eusa_thin I think I handle things pretty well, that's why I can laugh and joke and not take things seriously which is better than can be said about many others, there is not a PROPER way to grieve there are just different ways. You can NOT ban/sack anyone for having different views and opinions, that's called corruption.

How is ban/sacking a person/group of people who makes sick jibes about someone being corruptive? Say if i owned a really big website and i have a forum which brings in thousand's of members daily and a group of people made sick jokes about someone who had died and a large group of members complained and demanded action to be taken then obviously i would have to do something about.

This is no laughing matter when someone has died....

Tbh if i was Head of the forum/CEO or w.e a lot of members would be banned.... But i understand why Habbox hasn't taken much action... This isn't exactly a large forum that attracts large amount of people (Daily members) About 150 on average?

Anyway, if i was General Manager of this forum i would make this a much better and funner environment to be in. I HOPE YOUR LISTENING NVRSPK! I would also get the staff into place as their seems to be some sort of "i can do what i want" attuide on here. There's only 1-2 staff who i can say are really professional. Catzy being one of them.

[Jordy]

One thing you have to remember, Jordy is that sometimes you cannot plan for
an event like this to happen and even more what effect it would have on the forum. The news had a huge mushroom effect between the for and against so to speak which hit many forums at once. It was a most unusual occurence . All the staff did what they could in the circumstances last night some until the early hours of the morning. It is very easy to criticise people in hindsight. Personally I cannot see the point of a huge debate on this. Nobody is ever going to agree on a course of action in this matter. Nothing was done last night that was against procedure and at 1/ 2am in the morning a course of action had to be taken to cool the situation down. That's what was done and it worked. End of story. The alternative could have ended in a lot of normally very well behaved members having infractions at the least and even a ban.

Perhaps you could say how you think it could have been handled better given
most unusual circumstances?

Indeed I totally agree about it being unexpected, what I was more referring to is a clarification about 'sick jokes', for the past couple of months they've gradually been building up in Current Affairs, I did foresee the build up getting to the stage where it would eventually get out of hand, upset people and cause arguments. I alerted lAscend about this when he was Forum Manager and the reply I got was

Ok im gonna discuss this with nvr and bomb-head to get some sort of crack donw on this sort of stuff.
Sorry for the delay of replying to this

I'm not sure whether this was discussed with the two and what the outcome was but there had been a build up and before this thread, the situation regarding sick jokes was very confused. It seems to of been clarified to an extent now it's 'recommended' they're in spoilers.

I think it does need to be discussed between the manager as it's clearly confused and there's a lot of views on this. Needless to say this thread has had over 150 replies and there's other threads with arguments in as well. People seem upset and it needs sorting, the forum needs clearly to announce it's views on sick jokes and what it intends on doing with them, it cannot continue like this.

[17-jamie-17]

There's only 1-2 staff who i can say are really professional. Catzy being one of them.

I have to agree though i think Robbie! And MattGarner are both quite professional

Somebody isnt -coff-

[Sammeth.]

I have to agree though i think Robbie! And MattGarner are both quite professional

Somebody isnt -coff-

Yeah that Leaahh., shes a one!

[Robbie]

I have to agree though i think Robbie! And MattGarner are both quite professional

Somebody isnt -coff-

Love you too :8

[Chippiewill]

Your sick people. Your very sick. Would you like it if someone took the mick out of one of your family members who died?

When my dad died I wanted to play 'Another one Bites the dust' at his funeral, honestly I couldn't care less

I imagine a handful of users (especially some of the ones making the immature jokes) haven't really experienced a friend/family member or someone they idolize die, because HxF is mostly just teenagers.

Again, my Dad died and I still find the jokes funny, I think it's a shame that you have to take this so seriously...


Honestly, some people have to Joke about things, every on needs a good joke once in a while. When it's someone that you liked it seems harsh, however if it was Osama Bin Laden or similar then most of people against the jokes would be joking, most people are hypocritical about everything...