Shootings and explosion in Paris

[AgnesIO]

@conservative; No we shouldn't drop bombs in Raqqa on Islamic State because Islamic State in Iraq isn't the immediate threat to national security. The threat to national security are the people - Angela Merkel, the European Commission, the French government - along with cheerleaders like you who demanded that we allow hundreds of thousands of people from a highly radical war into Europe. That's the real threat to French national security along with open borders which allowed at least one attacker to cross numerous borders from Greece without any checks and another to cross the Belgian-French border without any checks. Oh and did I mention the Islamic ghettos across Europe where security services and authorities now admit they have 'lost control' in? Kind of like how in Rotherham they 'lost control' and thousands of English girls were passed around whilst the authorities sat by and did nothing for fear of being branded racist.... by people like you and Tom.

You just posted a thread saying French intelligence services are 'watching' 5,000 people. How many of those have been watched for a lot longer than the refugee crisis? Or are you telling me they were not watching anyone before the crisis?

Girls get passed around all the time, every single **** day, for **** sake. If you are really so **** small minded to think that getting rid of Islam is some how going to protect every girl in Britain, then YOU are the problem in this country. Sex trafficking, sexual exploitation, sex slavery - those are GIGANTIC issues and the whole Rotheram thing (which was terrible) is a tiny, tiny piece of the pie.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I literally quoted you saying "One attacker so far is confirmed to be from Syria and another was found with an Egyptian passport", you can't then backtrack and pretend that you've not said that an attacker was Egyptian. Aaaaaaaaaaaaand of course you then had to decide to make up what I feel about issues, lol shambles

An Egyptian passport was found and thought to belong to an attacker....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6734491.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblo...officials-say/

The Egyptian ambassador to France, Ihab Badawi, said that the Egyptian passport found after the Paris attacks belongs to a man called Waleed Abdel-Razzak.

Abdel-Razzak, according to Egyptian website Al Ahram, sustained severe injuries in the bombing.

Badawi said the media “incorrectly” described Abdel-Razzak as a suspect in the bombings that hit the French capital.

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You just posted a thread saying French intelligence services are 'watching' 5,000 people. How many of those have been watched for a lot longer than the refugee crisis? Or are you telling me they were not watching anyone before the crisis?

Girls get passed around all the time, every single **** day, for **** sake. If you are really so **** small minded to think that getting rid of Islam is some how going to protect every girl in Britain, then YOU are the problem in this country. Sex trafficking, sexual exploitation, sex slavery - those are GIGANTIC issues and the whole Rotheram thing (which was terrible) is a tiny, tiny piece of the pie.

And do you think they'll have to watch a lot more as a result of opening the borders to hundreds of thousands of Syrian muslims? It isn't rocket science really is it.

[AgnesIO]

An Egyptian passport was found and thought to belong to an attacker....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6734491.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblo...officials-say/



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And do you think they'll have to watch a lot more as a result of opening the borders to hundreds of thousands of Syrian muslims? It isn't rocket science really is it.

How many of those have been watched for a lot longer than the refugee crisis? Or are you telling me they were not watching anyone before the crisis?

[FlyingJesus]

An Egyptian passport was found and thought to belong to an attacker....

Yes I'm aware of that, but there was already a post debunking that thought long before you decided to continue claiming that one of the attackers was Egyptian to score points

[-:Undertaker:-]

How many of those have been watched for a lot longer than the refugee crisis? Or are you telling me they were not watching anyone before the crisis?

Most of them, and that was through more controlled islamic immigration (although still too high as I say every time).

Think of what the figure will spiral to if you get your way and hundreds of thousands keep pouring into Europe from a highly sectarian warzone.

Yes I'm aware of that, but there was already a post debunking that thought long before you decided to continue claiming that one of the attackers was Egyptian to score points

Yes you were aware of that weren't you. I'm so sorry I don't have instant updates from MI5 and have to go by media sources in a fast-paced debate like everyone else.

[AgnesIO]

Most of them, and that was through more controlled islamic immigration (although still too high as I say every time).

Think of what the figure will spiral to if you get your way and hundreds of thousands keep pouring into Europe from a highly sectarian warzone.

Well if there are hundreds of thousands, let's say 1,000,000.

Let's say 50% of those go to France. That's 500,000 people. Let's say 5% of those are radicalised. That's 25,000. Let's add that to the 5,000 you already have, we now had 30,000. We now have 0.6% of Muslims in France radicalised. Still not 5%, is it?

[FlyingJesus]

Yes you were aware of that weren't you. I'm so sorry I don't have instant updates from MI5 and have to go by media sources in a fast-paced debate like everyone else.

What the hell are you on about the post showing that the Egyptian passport DIDN'T belong to an attacker was at 11:25 this morning and your post still making the claim was at 19:29. Are you saying you need more than 6 hours to read a single post?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well if there are hundreds of thousands, let's say 1,000,000.

Let's say 50% of those go to France. That's 500,000 people. Let's say 5% of those are radicalised. That's 25,000. Let's add that to the 5,000 you already have, we now had 30,000. We now have 0.6% of Muslims in France radicalised. Still not 5%, is it?

It's called an example figure, nowhere did I claim 5% was the actual figure. I later provided actual figures, which you did not like.

But let's get down to it: will you now admit you were wrong to call for Europe to open itself up to hundreds of thousands of Syrian muslim 'refugees'?

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What the hell are you on about the post showing that the Egyptian passport DIDN'T belong to an attacker was at 11:25 this morning and your post still making the claim was at 19:29. Are you saying you need more than 6 hours to read a single post?

The other attacker is from Syria and we're still to find out about the other, so if I get one wrong via media reports that means my whole argument is wrong? No my son.

[AgnesIO]

It's called an example figure, nowhere did I claim 5% was the actual figure. I later provided actual figures, which you did not like.

But let's get down to it: will you now admit you were wrong to call for Europe to open itself up to hundreds of thousands of Syrian muslim 'refugees'?

I don't recall ever saying we should let every single person in. But no, I won't track back on my original comments; if anything, the attacks in Paris back up why so many of these 'economic migrants' are fleeing in the first place. I think I'd **** flee if my city was like Paris on a daily basis, to be honest.

You didn't ever say "example", you said 5%. That's simply what you said. The real figures (as mentioned in another thread) are not "real", they are embarrassingly vague questions and an embarrassingly small sample (assuming that was the 1,000 sample one - might be wrong there though).

[FlyingJesus]

No it means the bit that I showed was wrong was wrong, simple as that you don't need to make up what I'm saying *+*+again*+*+

Although doesn't show great promise if you're not able to keep up to date on what's essentially a day-old update...