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[Plebings]

it all starts on client. how do we expect to gain members when the public won't even want to enter your room? the words fallin furni and don't get a carrot carry a stigma that put off the majority of people, sure the room might be nice on the inside, but when i'm looking through the navigator and i see basic games being hosted, more often than not i presume it'll be a scam. we need to make the rooms look inviting first and foremost, hosting easily put together games like these don't attract people.

^{(i can't really talk since i haven't done any events in a while, sorry)}

[God]

again nothing will change with martin in charge since he has the interaction skills of a robot, he cant get the people who will host good events to join because he doesn't do what any good manager should do and make friends and mingle outside of habbox. hes good on the paperwork side of things but when it comes to getting things done he isnt the person for the job

i said this in staff forum and he ignored it (whist everyone agreed with me)

if he put as much time and effort as he does into flirting and finding boyfriends on the forum maybe events would have a TINY chance

Tots Agree with this lol. Unfortunately for Habbox it has to be like this :L @.Cymru.; for Events Manager!

[sex]

also when i attend a game, may it be habbox or not if i see someone talk like a noob and add irl to the end of everything im going to assume my prize is a freeze tile

[RyRy]

Is this thread still going on, I thought he was joking

[FlyingJesus]

The title is a joke, the need for drastic improvements isn't.
I like Alex and Martin but they simply aren't management material - Alex hasn't even replied to this thread once despite it directly concerning his department all the way through, and Martin's input was to apologise and say he doesn't like hurting peoples' feelings. Good management would see the problems afoot and at least one easily enacted solution that's been suggested (namely, allowing multiple events at a time) and implement the change immediately. What's happened instead is a flat nothing, and now as far as I can tell Graham's given up and others appear set to follow. If Habbox as an institution wasn't so set against employing managers for their management abilities rather than how chummy they are then I could reasonably hope for improvement to come, but as it stands we are as I said before merely stagnating.


ps: Only 5 of the current 20 events staff have responded to this, loving the enthusiasm. Good work team

[Martin]

Going to keep this brief but just wanted to clear up a few things. Firstly, I think some of the issues raised in this thread have been spot on, and it's clear that there is a lot of work to be done in improving the department. Is this something new, and something which only effects this particular department? Probably not. Habbox isn't just about events, its about the entire package, its about the impression people get when they view our site, its the impression they get when they visit our official rooms, its the impression they get when they visit our forum and read our posts too. Things such as giveaways, and things which entice people to be part of something are always hosted by other sites, and perhaps we are lacking in this area too in terms of trying to get numbers up.

That being said, of course events play a huge role in attracting people to the site, and as rightly mentioned in this thread, one of the key aims needs to be making events unique and exciting where possible. Taking a quick look at other fansites, its evident that the majority of their events are the standard 'pod racing' 'fallin furni' and even 'cossie change' etc too, so I guess if they're able to fill those rooms then there must be some demand somewhere.

No but I expect games that are fun to play. It's been established many times before in feedback and polls that certain events just aren't what people want to be playing, yet they keep happening and then there's somehow confusion over why some events struggle to get people turning up.

The problem I have with that particular poll is that it's rather ambiguous. Whilst I fully support trying to find out what the public want to see, I just think that the amount of replies in that poll/thread does not fully represent our Habbo userbase fully, quite a large number of forum members don't often come to events, and there is kind of a division there I guess. The fact that the poll was also not multiple choice could throw up a few problems too, as people's '2nd favourite' could have been something far different, and one popular game 'Melting Carpets' cannot be hosted all the time.

Bingo came second favourite in that poll, but people have often been berated for hosting too much Bingo, with people saying how boring it is etc, so I guess different people have different opinions. Only 8 people voted for 'other' which isn't really that signficant. I think its better to ask people what they want to see hosted, rather than just their one favourite event in such a minor proportion.

Good to see that the events hosted are becoming more like what people wanted to actually play! Let's have a look at what's booked for today

zebbadi - Fridge Game (essentially don't get a carrot, 0 votes)
zebbadi - Unscramble (0 votes)
.Cymru. - Addition (1 vote)
.Cymru. - Unlucky Chair (0 votes)
Bolt660 - Fastest Typer (0 votes)
Civilisation - Habbo Races (not sure if this is pod racing style (0 votes) or Mario Kart style (4 votes))
JamesSparky - Elimination (no idea what this is, possibly something new )
DailyBread - Spell Check (nice spin on FT, could be good idk)

Oh maybe not then. So that's potentially 2 popular games in an entire day.

Also didn't we used to claim we were better than HFFM because we hosted more games than them? We have 22 event staff and are only averaging 8 games per day so far this month. I know we're not as international as we'd like to be but missing out on two thirds of the day is a bit much really. Not at all suggesting that regular staff should be on every single day but surely there's SOME passion in the team. That's passion btw, not attitude, which is what I encountered earlier when I asked a certain member of staff why he hosted unpopular events - apparently the Habbox community are the ones who are wrong, not him, because 10 people (half of whom are staff) turn up to his games.

Again, this isn't always the case. I've often hosted events such as 'pod racing' and had a full room, its not always about that and I do know some people that will happilly play and enjoy that event. What I'm trying to say is that I fully support the need to have new and exciting events, but I do think there is place for some of the old ones to be thrown in too occasionally.

The amount of events being hosted is something we continuously try to improve. Getting staff is often difficult, and unfortunately applications sometimes run dry, despite our best efforts. I think the fact that people have to donate their own furniture for use as prizes etc can often put a lot of people off, funds has always been one of the most annoying things within the department as they simply aren't there. We'd love to build big fancy permanent events rooms which could be used by everyone, but funding these isn't always easy, especially when you have big events/seasonal changes to implement etc such as halloween furniture/christmas furniture etc.

There has been a year on year improvement between 2012 and 2013 which you would expect really, with only three days having less events than this time last year. The 'Back To School' promotion was running last year too, so that's quite a leap really. This time of year is very often quiet, but as we get into the next month or so I fully expect things to pick up- that being with taking onboard suggestions mentioned in this thread, and continuing to try and ensure that events are varied (I myself am guilty for this).

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Yeah management used to get around that by claiming that we have more events so more visitors overall but that hasn't been true for quite a while now... The simple fact is that they host events that people actually want to go to (not just people on the host's list) and don't allow their staff to simply stagnate.

Our newest lot seem promising: Graham and Myles made The Strangers, Gina did Duck Races for a bit which was fab, and DailyBread seems to be getting inventive too. A lot of the time though people seem content to just host boring games where they sit and talk to their friends rather than work to improve the department, or in some cases coughCASSIEcough actually subvert their fellow EOs by complaining about their events and bullying them on a personal level

If you have a complaint or issue regarding any member of events staff then do feel free to let us know via PM, quite often a screenshot is useful, especially in regards to bullying as this is an extremely serious issue and will need to be looked into by general management. I personally loved Gina's Duck Races too, but for some reason she didn't like it unfortunately, and felt people did not enjoy the event which was a shame.

again nothing will change with martin in charge since he has the interaction skills of a robot, he cant get the people who will host good events to join because he doesn't do what any good manager should do and make friends and mingle outside of habbox. hes good on the paperwork side of things but when it comes to getting things done he isnt the person for the job

i said this in staff forum and he ignored it (whist everyone agreed with me)

if he put as much time and effort as he does into flirting and finding boyfriends on the forum maybe events would have a TINY chance

Interaction has always been something I've struggled with since a young age, I'm not the most confident in terms of speaking and suffer quite often from nerves etc. Making friends has always been hard, probably why I've never really had any in the real world other than the times I've been lucky enough to meet a few people from here. I do try my hardest to talk to people, I speak to a lot of people in events, especially the regulars, and I'd like to think that one thing that a lot of events organisers have improved in is their ability to welcome new members and make them feel welcome.

I don't recall you saying such things in the staff forums, but I apologise if I missed something, you could have always talked to me privately if you had any concerns. I'm not sure what you mean in terms of your last line, I'm good at the administrative stuff, but not at what?

I'm not sure if it was you or someone else who mentioned dedication and me 'leaving all the time' etc. I know i'm not perfect, I wouldn't really want to be, but over the past four years I've never really stopped working for Habbox in some shape or form. I was Assistant General Manager for a year, News Manager for over a year, Super Moderator for over a year, I've currently been back in the events department for a year, and same with the moderation department. Yes- my signature may make it look like I come and resign a week later, but often its been after a long period in said jobs.

I don't want to argue Graham, because I do really admire you and your passion for wanting things to improve- I think we all want that. We're volunteers on a Habbo fansite, we don't HAVE to care, but we do or we wouldn't be here. It's not some power trip, its about wanting to do our best to make a difference. You don't always see what goes on behind the scenes, but a lot of stuff is discussed.

Obviously a key point to any management team is the Assistant General Manager, who overlooks everything, and we're really lucky to have Jade now to be involved and overlook things. We received a report at the beginning of the month highlighting things that need to be improved etc and giving us things to work on, and there are a lot I fully understand.

I just don't think bringing personal things into it is fair really and I apologise if I've said anything to upset or anger you, but I promise that was not my intention at all.

also when i attend a game, may it be habbox or not if i see someone talk like a noob and add irl to the end of everything im going to assume my prize is a freeze tile

Unfortunately that's just the way I am and it's not something I can easily change, but I will do my best, everyone has little bad habbits. I can assure you the prizes are much better than a freeze tile.

The title is a joke, the need for drastic improvements isn't.
I like Alex and Martin but they simply aren't management material - Alex hasn't even replied to this thread once despite it directly concerning his department all the way through, and Martin's input was to apologise and say he doesn't like hurting peoples' feelings. Good management would see the problems afoot and at least one easily enacted solution that's been suggested (namely, allowing multiple events at a time) and implement the change immediately. What's happened instead is a flat nothing, and now as far as I can tell Graham's given up and others appear set to follow. If Habbox as an institution wasn't so set against employing managers for their management abilities rather than how chummy they are then I could reasonably hope for improvement to come, but as it stands we are as I said before merely stagnating.


ps: Only 5 of the current 20 events staff have responded to this, loving the enthusiasm. Good work team

Alex apologises for not replying, he's been on limited activity this week, and is settling back into college etc. The kinds of problems seen in this thread are things we would have to discuss and clear with our Assistant General Manager anyway as managers cannot make those kinds of decisions and just pass them like that without discussion, that's not my rules thats just how things normally are. As we've seen in the past, implementing changes immediately isn't always to the benefit of Habbox, and just because a couple of people mention it, doesn't mean its backed by all (staff included, who are also part of the community and might not want to be sat in their events rooms whilst another one is full.) I DO think its a good idea in practice, but perhaps best waited for until we can work on getting the main event numbers up for the ONE event which is happening each hour. If you want a fuller calendar, then allowing people to host at the same time could be problematic if people host their minimums at the same time

I actually showed support for your idea in post #74 of this thread, and tagged the relevant people (Alex and Jade) for their opinions. This was back on the 9th, but I believe Jade has been away for a while, and Alex has been on limited activity this week. Alex has asked me to apologise for his lack of reply in this thread.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=784400
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...23#post7993523
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...69#post7993169
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=782074 - We introduced this based on member feedback
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...84#post7951884


We do try to listen to all feedback, and act upon it as priority, and I do apologise for the lack of reply you've been given, and the lack of action taken. Staffing issues have been up and down lately accross departments, and I'm sure you can fully understand that when you have people coming and going on a regular basis (be it because they are too busy with uni etc), then getting the message accross can be difficult at times in regards of getting people to be creative etc.

Whether we are 'management material' is another issue, and I agree there are times where things could be done a lot quicker, but as you also mention, it is a team effort, right from the top to the bottom and things such as 'allowing people to host whenever they like' is something that would need to be discussed fully before just being introduced out of the blue and unfortunately people have been away/inactive lately to reply etc.





The bottom line is, there are currently a number of problems being faced in the department, some of which rely on a number of factors. I agree with most of your points, and I'm sorry for not putting 100% into everything as of late, however we shall make it our priority to get together and discuss this feedback soon I promise you.

[AgnesIO]

Alex apologises for not replying, he's been on limited activity this week, and is settling back into college etc.

The thread is 12 days old - now as someone who has just left college, I have never fully understood the "settling back in" thing - just sounds like "can't be arsed" thing lol

[Kardan]

Just a quick note on the improvments in the events booking between 2013 and 2012, it's all good having an increase, but there's not much difference in hosting 6 events on one day last year, and 7 events on the same day this year when other fansites are hosting 18+ events on the same day.

[FlyingJesus]

The minimums ought to be raised really; as far as I'm aware it's only 2 events a week which is nothing, especially for those who host really simple games that require no effort. 2 hours out of 168, half of which are probably spent on the hotel anyway. Also what is the reason for events not being (at least partly) funded? The lottery seems to do fairly well, and comps is fully endorsed despite the total cost per person per week being like 10c. Having credit incentives for those who host often and successfully would boost team morale, cause more events to be hosted, and entice people to join up - especially since in some events the host can end up giving away anywhere up to 50c in the hour. Perhaps it would be worth having official grabber events open more often to raise funds, people do like playing those anyway

[sex]

The minimums ought to be raised really; as far as I'm aware it's only 2 events a week which is nothing, especially for those who host really simple games that require no effort. 2 hours out of 168, half of which are probably spent on the hotel anyway. Also what is the reason for events not being (at least partly) funded? The lottery seems to do fairly well, and comps is fully endorsed despite the total cost per person per week being like 10c. Having credit incentives for those who host often and successfully would boost team morale, cause more events to be hosted, and entice people to join up - especially since in some events the host can end up giving away anywhere up to 50c in the hour. Perhaps it would be worth having official grabber events open more often to raise funds, people do like playing those anyway

Its sorted funded, not really in a great way though. I hosted like 12 events i think it was, maybe more not sure but around that number and i got 5 pieces of furni (WHICH IVE YET TO GET). Which is nothing as that's given out in one/two rounds (depending on the host, ie; not cassie)