*DEBATE* Should Muslim women be allowed to wear veils that show just their eyes?

[Kymux]

Can I just say: I live 3 doors down from Jack straw.

[in my special dreams]

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[Acidulantes]

You know I would of bothered to read that if I thought it would of proven me wrong in any way...

I think though, your trying to say that because sikhs get to carry daggers, muslims should get to wear veils?

[BL!NKEY]

I think though, your trying to say that because sikhs get to carry daggers, muslims should get to wear veils?

That is a point.

If sikhs are allowed to carry daggers it cannot be worse then muslims with veils.

[Desjardens]

Personally, i don't like them, they make people look ominus, like they have somthing to hide.

[Herman]

our country our rules get used to it.

Everything you've said so far sums up to that one sentence. If you can't give better evidence or info, don't bother posting.

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your evidence isnt that great either " oh its my religion " its not their religion its recomended its not even highly recomended it doesnt even say to put on a veil and cover themselves up from society.

[Zazz]

your evidence isnt that great either " oh its my religion " its not their religion its recomended its not even highly recomended it doesnt even say to put on a veil and cover themselves up from society.

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

So it does say wear a veil, it is strongly reccomended by scholars, the prophets wives used to wear veils.

[Herman]

its not even highly recomended

See, you don't even know much about Islam, yet again making lies about the religion. Zazz just proved you wrong. It has been written that wearing is a veil is STRONGLY recommended. If you can't think of proper evidence, like I've said before, don't bother posting!

[alexxxxx]

Cool it people! =] I believe people should be disouraged from wearing the veil, not banned or anything. It maybe part of their religion, but our society isn't up for dealing with people that wear them. Maybe in public buildings, we should ask people to take it off (not force them, maybe put up a sign saying:

"We ask you to remove Veils, hoodies, hats and other items covering the head. You are not obliged to do so."

I think it does show a contrast between different races and religions if they wear them. There are plenty of muslim girls in my school that do not wear head scarfs.

[FlyingJesus]

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

I'm guessing the bits in brackets are added in, as most holy scripts don't have "ie:" kind of things, therefore you've added in the bit about veils. I don't know what you think a cloak is, but it certainly isn't a veil, and your face isn't your body, so once again it is misinterpretation that has led to all this.

Even so, you can't shrug off the "it's our country, accept the customs of it" argument because your argument is "it's my religion, accept it". There's no difference, yet you condemn one and use the other.

I have nothing against Muslims, I'm sure most are fine, but the few who do take things too far are a real problem. They ("they" being the ones who take things too far) don't seem to realise that this isn't a Muslim country, and we shouldn't have to change how we celebrate Christmas and other Christian festivals just because it upsets them. They are trying to turn England into a Muslim country, and in this way it truly is an invasion. We're off fighting Muslim extremists in Iraq/Afghanistan (and Iran soon) but fail to even acknowledge the fight in our own country. I'm not saying we should attack Muslims in Britain, but we should at least be able to stand up for our long-standing traditions and customs and have the power to call safety issues without being branded racists.