iPhone - Good idea? [Closes 10/02/07]

[BL!NKEY]

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[dog-egg]

YAY!!! Go Blinkey!!! What he doesn't know is I actually have a sonyericsson at the moment so i know exactly what it can and can't do, and I have a sony vaio to use at work, but my powerbook is miles thinner and feels better quality

i think it's funny how nuts ppl go over the whole mac/pc debate...

regardless, as soon as iphone is out, this ericsson is history... and goodbye to this rotten stylus

long live the mightymouse!!!!

[Dentafrice1]

Too big.. maybe should be small... and it should work with verizon.

[BL!NKEY]

YAY!!! Go Blinkey!!! What he doesn't know is I actually have a sonyericsson at the moment so i know exactly what it can and can't do, and I have a sony vaio to use at work, but my powerbook is miles thinner and feels better quality

i think it's funny how nuts ppl go over the whole mac/pc debate...

regardless, as soon as iphone is out, this ericsson is history... and goodbye to this rotten stylus

long live the mightymouse!!!!

There we go. Someone who has a sony ericsson and knows about the iPhone. Somebody who has a PC and a Mac.

Now tell me that the iPhone is a bad idea.

People will buy it and love it and Apple will make money. Try to tell us that the iPhone is a bad idea.

[GommeInc]

YAY!!! Go Blinkey!!! What he doesn't know is I actually have a sonyericsson at the moment so i know exactly what it can and can't do, and I have a sony vaio to use at work, but my powerbook is miles thinner and feels better quality

i think it's funny how nuts ppl go over the whole mac/pc debate...

regardless, as soon as iphone is out, this ericsson is history... and goodbye to this rotten stylus

long live the mightymouse!!!!

So then you know for a fact, that the Sony Ericsson has more applications that have some good uses? Or are you going to pretend you have a Sony Ericsson and say it doesn't? Or do you have an old Sony Ericsson phone?

A Sony Ericsson does more than an iPhone, except full web browsing and the multi-touch, but you get the obvious equivilent of buttons and the mini browser. But still, the Sony Ericsson has more applications than an iPhone. You can even download applications if you want, like Bluetooth Messenger.

You never did state that the iPhone is inferior to many already existing super phones "/ So as far as I am concerned, your comment on having a Sony Ericsson was and is pointless. Your Sony Ericsson has a stylus?!

My Sony Vaio is far smaller than a Mac Book:

My Sony Vaio Laptop:

Weight 2.3 kg
Height 37 mm
Width 329.6 mm
Depth 235.6 mm

The Mac Book:

Weight 2.39 kg
Height 27 mm
Width 325 mm
Depth 227 mm

Other than the height, it is nice and small "/ So, any other dumb comments with no proof? And nom, I do not want dumb comments like "But the Mac Book has a camera, it's built in to the screen, which makes indifferent to Width, Depth and Weight, they weigh next to nothing.

The "Might Mouse" has nothing mighty about it "/ It looks like a mouse and it's use is a mouse, so nothing "mighty" about it. Looks like Apple trying to be funny again.

I like how you love people on your side of an argument. An obvious weakness that you're trying to get as many allies. The fact this is a debate, where you need to give your views and fend for yourselfis out of the question for you "/

There we go. Someone who has a sony ericsson and knows about the iPhone. Somebody who has a PC and a Mac.

You cannot know the iPhone, it hasn't been released? Besides, I proved him wrong and as you should know, he never did say it was worse or better than the iPhone?

Now tell me that the iPhone is a bad idea.

It's not, it's just another phone with nothing original about it. Except the iPod, which is just another MP3 player in a phone, like Sony's Walkman.

People will buy it and love it and Apple will make money. Try to tell us that the iPhone is a bad idea.

Obviously people will buy it, Apple can sell anything with 'i' infront and make it seem cool. Have you not seen their "amazing" adverts? They literally scream why Apple is so good. Even though Apple have proven to me they're poor hippies (taken from the adverts). PC looks like he is doing good for himself and has a family that is easy to run. Mac doesn't mention his family, so he isn't proud of them.

Oh, have you also noticed the new Mac adverts about Vista? Don't get me started on how pathetic Mac have made themselves look. The firewall on Vista is not what is portrayed in those ads, far from it.

Common misconception from people who have never used a mac recently. The mouses actualy have a right and left click. Along with side squeeze buttons and a 360 degree scroll ball.

I used one last week, unless they've just released them. Hmmm, funny thing that, I wonder if Apple realised that a one button mouse was pointless? A 360 degree call is also pointless. You only need up, down, left and right on a PC.

Full web browsing is pointless? What are you talking about. About 99% of what I do on the web i dont need to save parts onto my computer. You can go check your email or a web page. Even come on here and post on habbox. OF corse you could do it easier at home with a full keyboard and 20" screen but the point of the iPhone is that it is portable.

You're not millions of phone users. You're just one person. You can check your e-mail on a normal phone, with the e-mail function. Or, if you have Gmail, go on it with a browser. You don't need the huge browser to do that either. Even though it's a good idea, for what I want in a phone, it'll just be another pointless feature which I can do at home or at college, or on my laptop?

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lmao - there's little point in attempting to carry on the argument with you!
have a look at what you wrote about the dimensions again hahahahahaha
apart from weight the vaio loses on all counts...
fyi i've got a p990...
and how can u say that the iphone has worse apps than the ericsson when the iphone hasn't been released and the software is unconfirmed
your contradictions, and erratic form of arguing mean that there is no coherent point in anything that you type - surely the more choice that a consumer has, the better? why try to belittle apple users? at no point have i done the same for PC users, so why the huge chip on your shoulder?

bizarre

[GommeInc]

lmao - there's little point in attempting to carry on the argument with you!
have a look at what you wrote about the dimensions again hahahahahaha
apart from weight the vaio loses on all counts...

Lol so it is Ignoring that, it isn't "miles thinner" and considering I mucked up what I said, although it is higher and wider, considering it is a Media Laptop, it needs this. Unless you want to view movies on a screen that's a few inches smaller "/ I'm not sure where this argument came from, because the Sony VAIO I have is a media laptop and anything by Apple is focused on media, so really, anything that is big, but easy to handle, is better than having something small which doesn't give you the full viewing pleasure you demand.

fyi i've got a p990...

Well the k800i and w200i has loads of applications which the iPhone probably won't have, but we'll have to wait for its release.

and how can u say that the iphone has worse apps than the ericsson when the iphone hasn't been released and the software is unconfirmed

I never said anything about the apps being terrible? I said that there is a possibility that they couldn't be very good or not having them at all "/

your contradictions, and erratic form of arguing mean that there is no coherent point in anything that you type - surely the more choice that a consumer has, the better? why try to belittle apple users? at no point have i done the same for PC users, so why the huge chip on your shoulder?

I wouldn't say you get a huge selection of choice with a Mac, you get more with a PC "/ You can customize your system to how you please, while with a Mac you can't customize as much as your would with a PC. You get more choice of colours, while with Macs it just appears you can get white and black?

I'm not belittling them, I'm just saying how it is and what I think. Besides, Apple belittle Windows, and fail miserably in their adverts with more visible flaws than Windows.

Mac is a poor hippy with a bad family. PC is doing well for himself, with a good family and friendly sense of humour with no dumb sarcastic comments from Mac, which kinda sum up Apple really. A joke "/

[Mentor]

[COLOR="Black"]That's right, he's a game producer. So why is he important, right? Well, he's the producer for the first PS3 game with motion technology- Warhawk. The development team were told about motion sensing *2 weeks* before the Sony keynote at E3, and had days before the event to tweak the controls a little. (Note: At the time of the keynote, a whole year after Sony first introduced the PS3, Warhawk was the only game that offered motion sensing.) So if motion sensing was an original plan of Sony's, why would they choose to release critical information about controller input just weeks before a major event? It doesn't make sense if it actually were a main feature.

As obviously, actualy encoprateing the technology in to the controller, creating the functionalty to allow the ps3 to interprite it etc, wasnt a concern, and wouldnt have needed to be in development for a substantal time period o.0
More than likley it was a unconfirmed feature, aka they haddent decided to use it or cut it out for the final version till quite late in the devlopment, which commonly happens in such situations. In responce to wii haveing it maybe? Copying, not really possible as they couldnt develop it from start to finish in such a short time frame.

When have developers claimed full use of Blu Rays was happening? oO The only time I recall developers speaking about the storage space is when they mentioned that they *wouldn't* use the full disc, unless you can site otherwise.

o.0 interesting, even Howard ("Drive speed matters more to me [than capacity], and Blu-ray is slower.") has said hes going to use the full disk, even if to store redundant data?

Not really, since DVDs have a variable speed depending on where its loading (inner or outter edge) while Blu-Ray will load at a constant rate. oO As an example, DVD x12 has a rate of ~9MB/s at minimum (inner edge), which is the roughly the same, or better, than a BD x2.

Thats all nice, but im not talking about 12* dvd's. Im taking about the WII, which only has read speeds simlar to that of dvd *6... which, not suprisingly is somewhat slower.
If where going to suddenly jump around to speeds the wii cant do, why not jump around with blu-ray's as well, a blu-ray *8 goes one hell of alot faster (288 Mbit/s). Plus you forgot to include the fact the ps3 can stream information from its hard drive... which is also quite substantaly faster.

Fault tolerance. And while Blu-Ray does offer many protections against everyday wear and tear, it's still just a disc. Sure, a hard drive is just a disc as well, but recovering data from the latter is already available while recovering data from a burned/shattered BD is pretty much impossible.

Well in normal circumstances, as with every other medium there is no. if you really want to get in to it, get some frenzic lazers, you can read the data in the same way you could read a shatted hard disk plate. So i dont get the differnece really "/

I meant developers would have to unconditionally support the Blu-Ray format regardless of performance. Since the PS3's Blu-Ray player is internal and not external, the format is basically being used to lure support from the gaming market even when it isn't really needed.

Sony build there consoles to last a few years, the requierments go up fast, so why not use the blu-ray disk? After all the ps1's success is partly down to useing a Blu-ray CD?

So, with that logic, Xbox 360 isn't a next-gen console because it doesn't have motion sensing or offer the ability to read a high-definition format.

Urmm, actualy the xbox 360 does suport hd content?

oO The next generation of anything is just an upgrade to anything currently avialable in whatever its predeceding. The analogy I wrote was basically saying; You don't have a great product just because you used the best materials. Technological superiority doesn't mean your product will have ensured success. You have to have content that'll sell the product. Take last gen for example, the Gamecube was superior in specs, but the PS2 ended up winning the console battles.

That would be true, if that was what you had claimed, but you made no mention of better console, you made mention of whether its a 7th gen console, which is directly mesuered by technolgical serfistciaion in the device.

It was because of the games. Playstation 2's game library offered a very wide variety of games that attracted a much bigger audience. The PS3 so far has very lackluster games, and development costs don't help either which just drives the indie game market away from that console = less games. The Wii offers a much cheaper solution for developing games which has successfully driven more developers to make games for it. Point being, in game consoles, it doesn't matter what specs you boast if you don't have good games. Many consoles have flopped because of this.

Well its kinda obvious, but still very true, a console is only as good as the games made for it. but the games can only be as good as the console allows them to be.

Also i support blu-ray as a format, im not so bothered about the ps3's useage of it. Blu-ray outdoes hd-dvd and all other formats in every aspect, and also has massivly outsold hd-dvd.

[BL!NKEY]

My Sony Vaio is far smaller than a Mac Book:

My Sony Vaio Laptop:

Weight 2.3 kg
Height 37 mm
Width 329.6 mm
Depth 235.6 mm

The Mac Book:

Weight 2.39 kg
Height 27 mm
Width 325 mm
Depth 227 mm

Other than the height, it is nice and small "/ So, any other dumb comments with no proof? And nom, I do not want dumb comments like "But the Mac Book has a camera, it's built in to the screen, which makes indifferent to Width, Depth and Weight, they weigh next to nothing.

Lol I thought that was a joke but I guess you are serious. Look at the size. The Mac is smaller in all dimentions

The "Might Mouse" has nothing mighty about it "/ It looks like a mouse and it's use is a mouse, so nothing "mighty" about it. Looks like Apple trying to be funny again.

The thing that people like about it is that it looks simple. It can be used as a one button simple mouse with a scroll ball. Or you can use the right button and side buttons and ball button so you have a nice mouse. It looks simple and that goes in with the style of Apple.

Obviously people will buy it

So to answer the thread question. Yes the iPhone is a good idea.

Oh, have you also noticed the new Mac adverts about Vista? Don't get me started on how pathetic Mac have made themselves look. The firewall on Vista is not what is portrayed in those ads, far from it.

I have talked with people about this ad and they think it is funny because they have installed vista and it is like that. The whole cancel or allow thing.

I used one last week, unless they've just released them. Hmmm, funny thing that, I wonder if Apple realised that a one button mouse was pointless? A 360 degree call is also pointless. You only need up, down, left and right on a PC.

No they have been out for years with a double click. You cant tell from the outside but if you click the right side only it is right click. You can set it to only single click if you want though. One button mouse are not pointless. Some novice computer users will never need use the right click.

About the 360 degree scroll ball. Using excell or photoshop while you are zoomed in the side scroll comes in helpful. You can go down and left with the ball. So it is not pointless. Just a nice feature.