Moderation Changes Cont.

[Hazza]

Woahh calm down dude, dont blame us we follow orders.

I didnt mind sending a pm as it was built into the infraction system but honestly dont blame us.

My bad, I meant Management who can't be bothered with the hassle of them.
Also, If warnings are automatic - Why get rid of them? :rolleyes:

[jrh2002]

You're like me, you miss out words and stuff

And yeah, I would like the PM system to stay

I put a D instead of a Y lol hope thats allowed under the strict new rules

[Slowpoke]

I put a D instead of a Y lol hope thats allowed under the strict new rules

No you missed out a word You do it quite often. I do it all the time and I've noticed MAD does it aswell as a few other members. It's dead weird

[jrh2002]

No you missed out a word You do it quite often. I do it all the time and I've noticed MAD does it aswell as a few other members. It's dead weird

I admit my english is not the best lol i should read my posts before posting but end up editing 2 or 3 times

Post is

You are not being blamed at all I just hope that senior management read this and decide for the better to inform us by pm to save and confusion.

Should have been

You are not being blamed at all I just hope that senior management read this and decide for the better to inform us by pm to save any confusion.

What word did I miss? now im confused.

[--ss--]

I think they are not automatic for some reason with warnings (I know they currently are) and thats the issue so a manual one by the warning mod would be required

Sorry but I have to disagree , Back when it was the usernote system I had never received a PM before about breaking any rules until I was given a caution within the month I registerd for things like double posting/oversized signatures etc (I'll admit, I was quite nooby back then)
I got given a caution from what I though was out of the blue and unfair as I couldn't even see my usernotes so I had no idea I had ever broken a rule

It would have been nice to have a gotten a PM back then telling what I have done (and I'm guessing by your post I was meant to) but from experience trying to moderate on here it may not seem like alot of effort but seeing as that will be increasing one of the things to do on top of all the other stressful jobs it's going to be really hard to do so.

In conclusion , Having it so we manually PM people will benefit the users but will harm the mod's as we already have enough to do as it is. The new systems looks like a good idea and probably is and may seem a little confusing but I guess we have to give it a shot first.

Edit: One of the reasons why PM's were removed from giving out warnings was 80% of time the mods just receive harassment back with them .

[Slowpoke]

I admit my english is not the best lol i should read my posts before posting but end up editing 2 or 3 times

Post is


Should have been


What word did I miss? now im confused.

Oh I thought you meant to put "save time and confusion" ehehhe

[MissAlice]

I can't see why a pm can't be sent, to advise of a warning. There are going to be new members to the forum every day, who may have quickly scanned through the rules, and may not sign in again for a few days or possibly even a week. Not every member is a forum rule book expert and understands every action that takes place. Even I forgot myself a few weeks ago, and got my first warning ever lol. I didn't notice it, but when I next signed in a pm was waiting for me. Although I wasn't to pleased with myself, the pm was a reminder, and it's been noted :p

I think it's important to communicate with members! Then there is no excuse to say they wern't aware.

[jrh2002]

Sorry but I have to disagree , Back when it was the usernote system I had never received a PM before about breaking any rules until I was given a caution within the month I registerd for things like double posting/oversized signatures etc (I'll admit, I was quite nooby back then)
I got given a caution from what I though was out of the blue and unfair as I couldn't even see my usernotes so I had no idea I had ever broken a rule

It would have been nice to have a gotten a PM back then telling what I have done (and I'm guessing by your post I was meant to) but from experience trying to moderate on here it may not seem like alot of effort but seeing as that will be increasing one of the things to do on top of all the other stressful jobs it's going to be really hard to do so.

In conclusion , Having it so we manually PM people will benefit the users but will harm the mod's as we already have enough to do as it is. The new systems looks like a good idea and probably is and may seem a little confusing but I guess we have to give it a shot first.

I am going back to before any usernote system when everything was done manually and recorded in threads etc. This worked well back then but of course when a new forum manager took over years ago they change things and sometimes not for the better. If you dont have time to send a pm then maybe hire a few more mods so it spreads the workload?
A manual pm thats copy and pasted from notepad is hard? all you need to add is the link to the thread? or even

Hi,

You have recieved a warning on HxF. Please refer to your usercp for details (link to user cp)

a copy, 2 clicks, a paste and a click. 15 seconds on top?

[Tiked]

I really like the new system, but the no PMS are a bit out of the blue. I like the cautions and bans because some people get away with lots of things and with this update they will be targeted.
However i don't like the idea that if you get a warning you won't be Pmed.
For example if i made a pointless post and then then didn't come back to the thread i wouldn't know i had been given a warning unless i checked in my User Cp, and quite a few people don't look at dates issued. I know it saves hassle but i believe it would be better if PMs were still given out for warnings.

[---MAD---]

The main reason we decided not to send pms with warnings because we wanted them to act kinda like user notes but automatically logged etc as people seem to prefer user notes to infractions although I will never understand why. Now it seems when we make this change, people want it the other way. Theres no winning in these sort of battles to be frank.

It's a bit like the filter. People complain we were too strict with it. We removed ***** and piss and people complained it should be added back to the filter. Its also the same with the rule about posting serial keys etc. Its a never ending battle here and sometimes we just have to decide which side to go with as its impossible to please everyone as you can see .

If people want a PM with warnings, we can do that I guess. It requires barely any effort from the moderators as they are automatically sent.

Also to those who say "just copy/paste this from notepad, takes 1 second!". You have to remember that these seconds/minutes adds up and also tasks like that get tidious. We try to make a mods life as easy as possible so that they continue to enjoy working on the forum and keeping the forums clean .

Saying "get new mods" or "get more mods" is hardly helpful. Finding good moderators that are active enough and understand the rules enough is no easy task. You can tell this by how long it takes sometimes for a moderator to settle in.

One more thing I would like to add in is that if you follow the rules, there no way you would manage to get 5 infractions or 5 warnings. I myself use many forums and don't read the forum rules mainly because its all obvious. Most the forums have the same rules. Don't spam, dont be rude, respect other members, don't post inappropriate posts etc etc.