*DEBATE* Should Muslim women be allowed to wear veils that show just their eyes?

[Shatter(1)]

Most of em are bloody imagrants.

Nixt (Forum Moderator) Please try to construct arguments a little less rudely in the future.

[Acidulantes]

Lmao shatner...

And you cant really quote a holy book on this, as the bible says (the christian holy book) an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. If people actually followed this, then we'd all be in turmoil and it says when someone asked Jesus how many times we should forgive people, he said seventy times seven. this doesnt mean you actually have to forgive someone 490 times.

[kinky]

No. When we go to their country, they make us wear their clothes, so over here they can wear our clothes. They annoy me, 'cos you dunno what they could be hiding under that thing.

[FlyingJesus]

I think people can go on about freedom and choice all you like, but at the end of the day it's not about that, it's about making us, the British peoples, happy.

"But what about making them happy?"

I don't care, because two very important things come before the happiness of others in my opinion: myself, and Britain.

[VanHalen]

My opinion is this is OUR COUNTRY and they should obey our laws, not go and make their own. If they don't like it, they can go back tot heir home countries.

[Nixt]

My opinion is this is OUR COUNTRY and they should obey our laws, not go and make their own. If they don't like it, they can go back tot heir home countries.

That's not what the thread is about, the question is should it be made a law, and why? There isn't actually anything already saying they can't, just a suggestion by an MP.

[DiscoPat]

What he said.
If they're going to come here to live they should be made to live the way people here do.
they make other people feel uncomfortable, and they're less likely to get racist abuse anyway, as it'd be harded to spot that they were muslim.
Muslim's would be less seperate from other people.

If they wanted people to know they were muslim, they could find some more discreet way of showing it, like christians wear a cross.

You stupid iddiot!
Are you telling me that there isnt any English Muslims?
Also just because MOST english people are Christian
does not mean that if some are they cant show there
belief into there own religion.

Nixt (Forum Moderator) Please try to construct arguments a little less rudely in the future.

Also if a English Christian family went to an islamic country
for example Turkey you would notice that there are women
who wear veils and also you would see women wearing mini
skirts, there is freedom, it isnt right to tell ANYONE how to
show there fath for a religion.
Also someone said about how we are not in the middle east
well mate as I said you dont need to be living in the middle-
east to be a muslim.
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If you go to a Muslim Country then you are forced to wear a Veil, It should be the same here, If a Muslim wants to wear a veil then it should wear it in private not in public, England is a Christian Country and has been for Hundreds of years and were happy with it the way it stands by Christian Laws, lets not change it to suit Muslims.

Mate, bare in mind that not all Islamic Countries FORCE women to wear
a veil, e.g. Turkey, Iran>>>

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Seacat made an interesting post about the sun reporter going past the security into the plane, my answer to that is; they still do the check of whats in there bag and they do go through that machine where they see
if you got any weopons on you.
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Acidulantes about the 7x7 thing, the actual thing is in the bible it says
forgive someone 7 times then after 7th mistake forigve them 7x7 then 7x7x7 etc.
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vanhalen said about following there laws? well little mate - there isnt a law about not being able to wear veils.
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Finnally I didnt read every post I just skim readed some.
Also I would like to point out that It's a fantastic thing what the
United Kingdom has done by geting all these people all over the world
and making people awear of all these cultures.
I was born in Turkey, I came to England when I was 3, I'm a Turkish and
British Citizen, I gain(ed) alot from England and in return what I am giving
back is being something, let me explaine, there are millions of people like me who will at the end give a big thing back to england, e.g. by being a doctor, being lawyers, being bin collectors, being pilots, opening businesses
and giving more people jobs. Just think about all this we have more important things to talk about than whether or not people Should show there fath in what ever way.

[FlyingJesus]

You stupid iddiot!
Are you telling me that there isnt any English Muslims?
Also just because MOST english people are Christian
does not mean that if some are they cant show there
belief into there own religion.

No-one said that there aren't any British Muslims, but the Muslims who kick up a fuss about things are the ones who are new to the country (if you want proof just think about how hardly any news was about Muslims in this country before).

Also if a English Christian family went to an islamic country
for example Turkey you would notice that there are women
who wear veils and also you would see women wearing mini
skirts, there is freedom, it isnt right to tell ANYONE how to
show there fath for a religion.
Also someone said about how we are not in the middle east
well mate as I said you dont need to be living in the middle-
east to be a muslim.

If you're going to follow what a book says I don't see why you can't follow what a person says.[/quote]

[Acidulantes]

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Acidulantes about the 7x7 thing, the actual thing is in the bible it says
forgive someone 7 times then after 7th mistake forigve them 7x7 then 7x7x7 etc.
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NIV:
21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?"
22Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy times seven

King James version:
21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

The Message:
21At that point Peter got up the nerve to ask, "Master, how many times do I forgive a brother or sister who hurts me? Seven?"
22Jesus replied, "Seven! Hardly. Try seventy times seven.


It really doesnt matter which one you look at, your wrong on that one...

[DiscoPat]

If you're going to follow what a book says I don't see why you can't follow what a person says.

[/quote]

I'm following from the book and experience.

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No-one said that there aren't any British Muslims, but the Muslims who kick up a fuss about things are the ones who are new to the country (if you want proof just think about how hardly any news was about Muslims in this country before).


Can you give me an example please.