9/11 Conspiracies - What do you think happened? - [Closes 13/05/07]

[FlyingJesus]

Sorry but lol@no parking sign right where the plane went into it.

[Mitch-tyler]

Well, like most people think, I think it was caused by Al Qaeda. Led by Osama Bin Laden, they wanted to get revenge on the USA, and start a war. So they crashed planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and an attempted one of the White House.

[Sammeth.]

The guy who I quoted was William Rodriguez, He was a high ranking janitor at the word trade centers for 20 years, He knew very well what was on that floor. It was empty, Nothing was supposed to be on it at all.

There was not a single floor of the World Trade Center that was empty. If they weren't used for office space, they were mechanical floors which were used for electronic equipment. No floor was ever just empty, never being used. Either he has been misquoted, or you have misinterpreted what the quote is saying. They would never have just an empty floor that was inaccessible with only a key card, when it could be used for office space... :S

Edit: It wasnt a mechanical floor, but it definitely wasn't empty...

Of the 110 stories, eight were set aside for technical services (mechanical floors) Level B6/B5, Floors 7/8, 41/42, 75/76 and 108/109, in four two-floor areas evenly spread up the building. All the remaining floors were free for open-plan offices.

Edit #2: I have just read the article link you provided, and that isnt really an entirely a reliable source. Its just someone who has set up a website with some quotes on. I would be more intrigued if he was quoted in say a newspaper, or the quote was on the CNN website or something. But its not. I find it very farfetch'd.

[Seatherny]

I still wonder why they stopped the American officials from flying that day? If they knew about the threat, why didn't they ground all the flights?
Thats a lie, or at least a mis-representation of facts, this utterly stupid claim is based on the evidence that Ashcroft stopped flying on commercial airlines two months before Sept. 11 and started taking chartered government planes instead.

Ashcroft is one man not the entire government, and this happened 2 months prior, not on the day.

NONE of the officials were allowed to fly that day.

Where did the gold from under the twin towers go?
It didnt go anyware, it was recovered a few weeks later under federal supervision.

Nope, only some of it was recovered.

Why was the same hot liquid found under WTC and WT7?
If your refering to the "White hot liquid aluminum" that was seen, then i think that one answers itself. Remeber that fire? guess what it effect it had.

Like I said in my earlier post, it was a liquid created by bombs.

Why didn't the engines from the plane make a hole in the pentagon?
because they just smooshed striaght in to it, planes are built to be light, which means there not especially strong. A turbine with a thin aluminum coating wont get very far trying to travel through a massive reinforced concrete block, its like throwing a glass at a wall and expecting it to get through.

LOLOL, the turbines are very strong. Aluminium - Light but strong. Suppose for a second, it was weak (which it isnt) and it didnt go through, where the hell did it go?

How come no traces of a plane were found in the pentagon?
They were, i even showed you a picture of part of one of the engines in fact?

Apart from the last picture, and maybe the first, they all look like rubble to me?

Also? no traces of the plane were found huh?




Was it done blind folded by any chance?

But oil prices have gone up.

It is not like the government is making more money by paying for a war to make up for the oil.

There was no reason for them to be behind this.

Politics. Saddam could have refused to sell oil to America unless he got whatever he wanted. Then America would have been doomed. Now they don't have to worry about that.

[BL!NKEY]

Politics. Saddam could have refused to sell oil to America unless he got whatever he wanted. Then America would have been doomed. Now they don't have to worry about that.

So the whole reason the government was behind 9/11 was to get America to go to war against Iraq and get rid of Saddam?

We got rid of him a few years ago. Why would they still be in war then?

I still dont see the reason the governement would have to want to fake 9/11.

Iraq is not the only place that we get oil from.


Who ever said that the terrorists were not the people on the empty floor planting explosives before the attacks?

If they can hijack two planes then they might have done more to prepare for this attack.

[Mentor]

Explosives planted on the vacant floors would account for that, There was also reports of the 91st floor (can't remember exactly), Sounding like it was having major work done big drills and such causing the floor below to shake, This was on the week leading up to 9/11. One of the people who worked on the floor below said every morning he'd come in and there would be dust everywhere on the windows, This had only begun once the work upstairs had. I also found an account from google of the 34th floor, Here.

o.0 what good would explosives planeted on the 34th floor do, for a controled demolision explosives would be needed on every floor? it would have no better chance going down from a 34th floor explosion than from the jet liner already embded in the side o.0

NONE of the officials were allowed to fly that day.

Again, thats a lie. They were.

Nope, only some of it was recovered.

You were there to count it?

Like I said in my earlier post, it was a liquid created by bombs.

Why would a bomb create liquid? bombs expload, not melt.

LOLOL, the turbines are very strong. Aluminium - Light but strong. Suppose for a second, it was weak (which it isnt) and it didnt go through, where the hell did it go?

Its not on the same scale as reinforced concerate, and aircrafts only have a very thin layer, there built to be light not strong.
Part of its even in the pictures below.

Apart from the last picture, and maybe the first, they all look like rubble to me?

Yes... crunched up alimunum rubble from a plain that wacked in to the side of the pentigon.

Politics. Saddam could have refused to sell oil to America unless he got whatever he wanted. Then America would have been doomed. Now they don't have to worry about that.

He did worse, he threatened to start trading in Euros instead of dollars.

[Mit]

I doubt they would have organised 9/11. Why would people like Osama Bin Laden claim it was him, knowing America would probably attack Afganistan.

[Seatherny]

I doubt they would have organised 9/11. Why would people like Osama Bin Laden claim it was him, knowing America would probably attack Afganistan.

Bin Laden claimed it WASNT him.

Please merge my bottom post with this one.
I accidently double posted.

[Seatherny]

So the whole reason the government was behind 9/11 was to get America to go to war against Iraq and get rid of Saddam?

9/11 had nothing to do with the Iraq war. The Iraq war was to get rid of Saddam and make Iraq a safer place. Its worse now.

We got rid of him a few years ago. Why would they still be in war then?

They can't just leave Iraq now, not in the condition it is in now.

I still dont see the reason the governement would have to want to fake 9/11.

Iraq is not the only place that we get oil from.

Its one of the main place where they get it from. They have a lot of oil now to last them a long time.

Who ever said that the terrorists were not the people on the empty floor planting explosives before the attacks?

If they can hijack two planes then they might have done more to prepare for this attack.

o.0 what good would explosives planeted on the 34th floor do, for a controled demolision explosives would be needed on every floor? it would have no better chance going down from a 34th floor explosion than from the jet liner already embded in the side o.0

You only need a few bombs where the main supports are.

Again, thats a lie. They were.

No they werent ... read the news from that day.

You were there to count it?

You said I was being stupid? Look who is being stupid now. The media, banks, officials said it themselves that most of the gold was missing.

Why would a bomb create liquid? bombs expload, not melt.

Special powerfull bombs, they let off some liquid.

Its not on the same scale as reinforced concerate, and aircrafts only have a very thin layer, there built to be light not strong.
Part of its even in the pictures below.

To me, it just looks like a load of rubbish in the photos? And ROFL, the engines/turbines are very strong. Where did they go then >.>

Yes... crunched up alimunum rubble from a plain that wacked in to the side of the pentigon.


He did worse, he threatened to start trading in Euros instead of dollars.

You said I was being stupid earlier and not making a good argument etc? You said I kept making stupid comments on these points ... look who is doing it now.

[Kardan]

Personally I don't think the US Government would do something as horrible as this to be honest.
We saw it with our own eyes - planes into building, buildings collapse because of damaged supports.
Same thing with the pentagon.
Fourth plane bought down by hijackers after people storm the cockpit.