REPUTATION OR LIKE SYSTEM

[wixard]

33 people want to keep rep, 21 want the like system

that really isn't that much of a difference, with the people who voted the like system that's a definite thing that they want, that they don't care that rep is gone. for people voting the rep some may not have even read the other options in the poll to see that we'd convert their rep into the like system if that's really what they wanted, which would make everyone happy.

also there are more of us arguing for the like system than against, there's 3 of you and about 5/6 of us.
nobody else is actively participating, so i don't really think they mind all that much.

[scottish]

but your rep points and power isn't an indication of how constructively you've posted because you can give your friends rep for no reason, not for constructive posts. people say they've earned rep when i know ive given them like 400 or so of their points just because i wanted to comment something to them which may not even be relevant to that post or even the forum... i rep people to comment on a post they've written instead of posting because id be off topic so rly im giving them rep for nothing.

I don't believe people should have power to show they're well liked or whatever because it's not always the case, plus your like meter will show how popular your posts are? n let's be honest, the amount of power you get for your time here and posts you've made isn't that much. rep power isn't fair, just coz ive got lots of rep points doesn't mean ive got more likeable posts than a person with smaller rep points, they might have more individual reps than i do, it's just that they've been given rep by people with less power than me.

also funny how ppl are constantly complaining about the rep system, how -reps get removed, the system gets abused, u can't -rep ur full points etc but once your rep power and points are in jeopardy everyone is keen to save the rep system lol.

And ur point with the spreading to rep, isn't that a negative? shouldn't u be allowed to like any post u want rather than wait a week to rep pne post even tho u want to rep many posts? ive tried to rep graham twice because I liked two posts but I can't cause I already repped him last week n then ill only be able to rep one post so with like system ud get all the posts u want liked and would be better for everyone because it'd be better indication of how much people like your posts.

and my last point was that, right now say i gave someone 2 rep a month so 100 rep a month, I could get them up 500 points in 5 month. But if my rep was then scaled down to 20, 2 reps a month would be 60 so they'd get 320 despite the fact before that they'd get 500. A new member would only get my 320 whereas those before the rep scaled down would have a higher advantage because they were getting 50 points at a time from me... SO therefore it'd be unfair on new members. I don't like points and rep power tbh, I think we should be equal and have an indicator as to how often our posts are liked but that's just me. Obviously it's not gonna change but I'm giving my opinion,

trying to play TTT here..

You can give your friends for no reason but it'll typically be pointless rep and can be removed if the person in charge can be bothered doing so, it's also limited in how often you can do so (once a week etc), just because you use rep for a different purpose than it's meant doesn't mean everyone does.. I know myself half my comments are thanks for helping them in tech etc, or people agreeing with me.

Rep power doesn't show people are well liked, pretty sure FJ said in the thread he's one of highest rep powers and not many people like him.. and that's how reps meant to work.. the people with more constructive posts/been here longer generally get higher rep so they have higher power to give out to other people.

I don't usually complain about rep, the system may be abused but it's a hell of a lot less flawed than the like system would be.

No, you should have a cooldown period between reps, if you think that post deserves a rep then you can take note of it and rep when you're next able to do so (as some people do in sigs owe rep to x and x)

So your point is if the system is scaled back, they still get the original points? that's only fair.. they got the points at the time when the system wasn't scaled back it would be stupid to go through every rep and change to the new scaled back number... No-ones saying to scale it back though, the majority decision is to leave it alone. So that's not even an issue thats being brought up?

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33 people want to keep rep, 21 want the like system

that really isn't that much of a difference, with the people who voted the like system that's a definite thing that they want, that they don't care that rep is gone. for people voting the rep some may not have even read the other options in the poll to see that we'd convert their rep into the like system if that's really what they wanted, which would make everyone happy.

also there are more of us arguing for the like system than against, there's 3 of you and about 5/6 of us.
nobody else is actively participating, so i don't really think they mind all that much.

just because people cba arguing for a system that you've already said has been completely rejected and is definitely not happening doesn't mean their vote is invalid.

if it's said it's definitely not happening then why should people argue to keep it.. just wasting their time

[sex]

But hang on, if we introduce the like system, then after a month, how are new members going to get to the same level of likes as a current member? Does that mean we'll have to keep resetting the like system - since we clearly want a level playing field here.

No wrong, because 1 like will equal one like in a week, in a month or in a year regardless of how many you have.. It will always be equal. Try again. You don't even need to show how many likes each person has? Its just for the postbit to show who liked each post etc. Since you seem to have brought up the fact that people will see how many likes people get etc brings me to believe that the only reason you're fighting this is because the amount of rep power you have gives you a big fat raging hard on.

From what I remember I've repped one person because jen asked me to, and that was +rep @lemons; I -repped FJ once because I think he's a creep, nothing to do with jen? lol try again.

No-one wants just +reps, everyone wants it left as it is (well majority)..

What difference does that make lol

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@CrazyLemurs; even not @lemons; thought he changed his name

"Nothing to do with jen" when she told me herself that she got you to -rep him.. but ok continue lying if you like. Thats hardly "nothing to do with her" if you -repped him in a post directed her because she asked you to. God you're and idiot (waits for you to report me lol)

I'm too busy playing games to look through the thread

still laughing at you trying to insult me because i'm disagreeing with your opinion, then even trying to bring Jen into this and completely failing.

and this is already finished.

You called her an idiot first?!?!? Even if you didn't youre very very hostile in this thread towards anyone who doesn't agree with you. Maybe you should put the time and effort your putting fighting your point in this thread into a finding a job?!?! Just an idea lol.

Looking at the poll suggests otherwise.

Sorry but if you look at some of the people who voted for the rep option you will see a lot of them are events hosts who are only voting not because they care about rep its because they are too cheap to give out prizes. You will also see around 6 users who have less than 100 posts and 1 rep power which leads me to believe a lot of people are asking their friends to vote. Compared with both like options who have active, well known users who post regularly..

[Kardan]

33 people want to keep rep, 21 want the like system

that really isn't that much of a difference, with the people who voted the like system that's a definite thing that they want, that they don't care that rep is gone. for people voting the rep some may not have even read the other options in the poll to see that we'd convert their rep into the like system if that's really what they wanted, which would make everyone happy.

also there are more of us arguing for the like system than against, there's 3 of you and about 5/6 of us.
nobody else is actively participating, so i don't really think they mind all that much.

Do you not see what you're saying? You're saying that all the people that voted for your option definitely wanted your option. But all the people that voted for the option that is winning (Which may I add is not my option/opinion) definitely didn't think about what they were doing, and probably meant to click another option.

And just because people don't post doesn't mean they don't care. Fair enough if they don't vote.

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No wrong, because 1 like will equal one like in a week, in a month or in a year regardless of how many you have.. It will always be equal. Try again. You don't even need to show how many likes each person has? Its just for the postbit to show who liked each post etc. Since you seem to have brought up the fact that people will see how many likes people get etc brings me to believe that the only reason you're fighting this is because the amount of rep power you have gives you a big fat raging hard on.


"Nothing to do with jen" when she told me herself that she got you to -rep him.. but ok continue lying if you like. Thats hardly "nothing to do with her" if you -repped him in a post directed her because she asked you to. God you're and idiot (waits for you to report me lol)



You called her an idiot first?!?!? Even if you didn't youre very very hostile in this thread towards anyone who doesn't agree with you. Maybe you should put the time and effort your putting fighting your point in this thread into a finding a job?!?! Just an idea lol.


Sorry but if you look at some of the people who voted for the rep option you will see a lot of them are events hosts who are only voting not because they care about rep its because they are too cheap to give out prizes. You will also see around 6 users who have less than 100 posts and 1 rep power which leads me to believe a lot of people are asking their friends to vote. Compared with both like options who have active, well known users who post regularly..

The point about event hosts voting to keep rep is slightly pointless since it's pretty much agreed that rep is a pointless prize and that it should be tokens given out instead. Clearly that wouldn't matter if it was a rep system or like system in place.
As for newer members voting, can't every other option have the same thing happening? Does that mean people want to start having restrictions on who can vote? Seems like people are just trying to doctor the results in their favour

[sex]

trying to play TTT here..

You can give your friends for no reason but it'll typically be pointless rep and can be removed if the person in charge can be bothered doing so, it's also limited in how often you can do so (once a week etc), just because you use rep for a different purpose than it's meant doesn't mean everyone does.. I know myself half my comments are thanks for helping them in tech etc, or people agreeing with me.

Rep power doesn't show people are well liked, pretty sure FJ said in the thread he's one of highest rep powers and not many people like him.. and that's how reps meant to work.. the people with more constructive posts/been here longer generally get higher rep so they have higher power to give out to other people.

I don't usually complain about rep, the system may be abused but it's a hell of a lot less flawed than the like system would be.

No, you should have a cooldown period between reps, if you think that post deserves a rep then you can take note of it and rep when you're next able to do so (as some people do in sigs owe rep to x and x)

So your point is if the system is scaled back, they still get the original points? that's only fair.. they got the points at the time when the system wasn't scaled back it would be stupid to go through every rep and change to the new scaled back number... No-ones saying to scale it back though, the majority decision is to leave it alone. So that's not even an issue thats being brought up?

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just because people cba arguing for a system that you've already said has been completely rejected and is definitely not happening doesn't mean their vote is invalid.

if it's said it's definitely not happening then why should people argue to keep it.. just wasting their time

Yes tom isn't like by many but he is still liked by a lot of people here regardless of what he says. It not exactly hard to go up a rep power, he was liked years ago and that's where he got his rep. The reasons is so high is because the requirements to go up a rep power where changed and people were allowed to give more rep. People who aren't like dont have high rep power (Okneous is an example hes in the red) If you look at toms post they aren't really deserving of rep anymore lol..

[wixard]

Do you not see what you're saying? You're saying that all the people that voted for your option definitely wanted your option. But all the people that voted for the option that is winning (Which may I add is not my option/opinion) definitely didn't think about what they were doing, and probably meant to click another option.

And just because people don't post doesn't mean they don't care. Fair enough if they don't vote.

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The point about event hosts voting to keep rep is slightly pointless since it's pretty much agreed that rep is a pointless prize and that it should be tokens given out instead. Clearly that wouldn't matter if it was a rep system or like system in place.
As for newer members voting, can't every other option have the same thing happening? Does that mean people want to start having restrictions on who can vote? Seems like people are just trying to doctor the results in their favour

but that's not what i'm saying at all... there are people like cerys in the last thread who said she wanted to keep rep then when she realised about the like system being integrated she changed her mind? i'm saying these people might not be informed of what the like system could actually bring or what it would be like if we used it, which is exactly what we're posting about now to try inform them and maybe they'd like to change their mind? fair enough if they don't.

[sex]

Do you not see what you're saying? You're saying that all the people that voted for your option definitely wanted your option. But all the people that voted for the option that is winning (Which may I add is not my option/opinion) definitely didn't think about what they were doing, and probably meant to click another option.

And just because people don't post doesn't mean they don't care. Fair enough if they don't vote.

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The point about event hosts voting to keep rep is slightly pointless since it's pretty much agreed that rep is a pointless prize and that it should be tokens given out instead. Clearly that wouldn't matter if it was a rep system or like system in place.
As for newer members voting, can't every other option have the same thing happening? Does that mean people want to start having restrictions on who can vote? Seems like people are just trying to doctor the results in their favour

No its not pointless, 90% of events staff don't even read posts on the forum. All it would take is one of them to be say in the skype chat "we will actually have to start giving prizes people vote rep" for them all to do it... Most of them don't even know abou the possibility of tokens as a prize

[Kardan]

but that's not what i'm saying at all... there are people like cerys in the last thread who said she wanted to keep rep then when she realised about the like system being integrated she changed her mind? i'm saying these people might not be informed of what the like system could actually bring or what it would be like if we used it, which is exactly what we're posting about now to try inform them and maybe they'd like to change their mind? fair enough if they don't.

So we should create another poll? Then everyone keeps debating? Then one sides loses and says another thread should be created because of the new arguments made?

People should think before they vote, if they don't, it's their loss. It's a pretty stupid thing to vote before you know what you're voting for.

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No its not pointless, 90% of events staff don't even read posts on the forum. All it would take is one of them to be say in the skype chat "we will actually have to start giving prizes people vote rep" for them all to do it... Most of them don't even know abou the possibility of tokens as a prize

Well, if this was true, you would have a point. But there's no proof for it. I could say that the forum manager is telling his friends to vote for likes because he doesn't want to keep wasting his time removing -reps and wants his system implemented despite what the forum wants.

[wixard]

So we should create another poll? Then everyone keeps debating? Then one sides loses and says another thread should be created because of the new arguments made?

People should think before they vote, if they don't, it's their loss. It's a pretty stupid thing to vote before you know what you're voting for.

i don't know if you've forgotten but this is fansite forum about habbo hotel which is aimed at preteens.
our demograph is probably averaging at 12-15 right now, i doubt any of them really care that much
it's not exactly an important vote or an important poll is it
i personally don't think the poll is anything to go by, even if the like system had more votes.

i'm just saying i think it's unfair to completely shoot down the idea when it is going to offer exactly what the rep system offers, yet it's modernised and more user friendly.

[Kardan]

i don't know if you've forgotten but this is fansite forum about habbo hotel which is aimed at preteens.
our demograph is probably averaging at 12-15 right now, i doubt any of them really care that much
it's not exactly an important vote or an important poll is it
i personally don't think the poll is anything to go by, even if the like system had more votes.

i'm just saying i think it's unfair to completely shoot down the idea when it is going to offer exactly what the rep system offers, yet it's modernised and more user friendly.

I would argue that the average age on the forum is definitely not between 12-15, but just like you, I can't prove anything - so we can't really dwell on that point.

And I agree with you here, I wouldn't call this poll a definitive poll. It wasn't created by management, it would probably be helped by having a multiple choice poll (E.g: I picked option 2, but would be happy with option 1) and there's no closing date on this poll. It would also be good to have the pros/cons of each method in the first post, and a message at the top of the forum telling people of the thread.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that at the moment, more people want rep to stay. And you say the like system is more modernised and user friendly. So literally because we'd have a thumbs up and down, rather than a 2 click +rep and a 3 click -rep, it's better?

And everyone keeps saying "You can only rep once a week", you do realise this can be changed if people are that bothered by it?