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    Quote Originally Posted by jakey,, View Post
    go ask all the big sino people alot of them seen me grow my wealth, casinos were a gold mine espec as i had 400+ diamond dealers, 16 - 24gb each. 391 gld dealers who paid 8-12gb each, etc etc and over 800 dealers have been removed in the past 8-10months so yano it wasn't hard
    I agree it isn't hard to get an extreme surplus profit from an already existing wealth, what I'm arguing is the means by which you obtained that wealth in the first place. You may not be out of pocket but that doesn't mean that you (and by 'you' I am pointing at all the big casino owners, not just you in particular here) didn't buy it illegally to begin with. Very very very few people accrue their habbo wealth today by legitimate means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I agree it isn't hard to get an extreme surplus profit from an already existing wealth, what I'm arguing is the means by which you obtained that wealth in the first place. You may not be out of pocket but that doesn't mean that you (and by 'you' I am pointing at all the big casino owners, not just you in particular here) didn't buy it illegally to begin with. Very very very few people accrue their habbo wealth today by legitimate means.
    ehhh i didn't i just got lucky and spent most my life on this god damn game, but of course the blackmarket is huge has been for years and probably will still remain it, if anything prices on it will go up because people will find it hard to supply gold bars due to not being able to earn them fast haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakey,, View Post
    ehhh i didn't i just got lucky and spent most my life on this god damn game, but of course the blackmarket is huge has been for years and probably will still remain it, if anything prices on it will go up because people will find it hard to supply gold bars due to not being able to earn them fast haha
    But what demand is there for gold bars when there is nowhere to bet them and get even more rich?
    This gambling clamp down coupled with furniture bundle releases slowly evening out availability of furniture ranges means that there won't, I don't think, be as much of a demand to buy coins. Currently purchasing a bundle for £3 is more cost and time-effective than buying 2 gold bars and buying each item separately. Super rares were only ever used to display wealth in casinos and as such will drop dramatically in price, don't you think?

    Aside from counting the coins in your purse, what is the purpose of habbo for you? What was it in the past? What drew you into gambling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    But what demand is there for gold bars when there is nowhere to bet them and get even more rich?
    This gambling clamp down coupled with furniture bundle releases slowly evening out availability of furniture ranges means that there won't, I don't think, be as much of a demand to buy coins. Currently purchasing a bundle for £3 is more cost and time-effective than buying 2 gold bars and buying each item separately. Super rares were only ever used to display wealth in casinos and as such will drop dramatically in price, don't you think?

    Aside from counting the coins in your purse, what is the purpose of habbo for you? What was it in the past? What drew you into gambling?
    really good questions but you'd be surprised how many fansite people and mafia people buy credits in the blackmarket, alot more then casinoers. So now we can't earn as much it's a lower supply so makes it better for people in the long run if your a blackmarketer.

    and to your last questions habbo ... i been here 11years as u can tell 8 years on this forum aswell like you, like i earned so much but it got unejoyable it was just too much of an opportunity to let go and now to me it's my childhood and time is what's keeping me. Staff said they felt sorry for me and said i'm incredibly talented for what i managed to do ... got the emails and screenies to proove but hey ho don't matter now right?
    In the past it was games but they were like snowstorm wobble squabble .. you name it, then i came across gambling was so fun being with friends making furniture easy and i dunno was cool being in these rich rooms and being known yano? then it kinda hooked me in for 8 years, so now i can understand the good part that it stops me being addicted to it just a shame that it took so long yano?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakey,, View Post
    really good questions but you'd be surprised how many fansite people and mafia people buy credits in the blackmarket, alot more then casinoers. So now we can't earn as much it's a lower supply so makes it better for people in the long run if your a blackmarketer.

    and to your last questions habbo ... i been here 11years as u can tell 8 years on this forum aswell like you, like i earned so much but it got unejoyable it was just too much of an opportunity to let go and now to me it's my childhood and time is what's keeping me. Staff said they felt sorry for me and said i'm incredibly talented for what i managed to do ... got the emails and screenies to proove but hey ho don't matter now right?
    In the past it was games but they were like snowstorm wobble squabble .. you name it, then i came across gambling was so fun being with friends making furniture easy and i dunno was cool being in these rich rooms and being known yano? then it kinda hooked me in for 8 years, so now i can understand the good part that it stops me being addicted to it just a shame that it took so long yano?
    RPers and fansite owners are still a rather large portion of the market - yes - but I hope that with the release of further bundles that allow access to wide ranges of furniture that habbos will be a little more creative with what is immediately available to them rather than striving to be the biggest and the best. But hey, there's always going to people like that, so I guess the demand for blackmarket gold will remain. Bundles are 1 measure, perhaps habbo can introduce more measures to lessen it a little.

    ss/ws/bb were fun games there is no doubt about that, they were simple yet effective, but we must remember that we are in the Wired Age now. If you can think of a concept for a game, there's sure as hell a way to make it work. A fellow forum member actually recreated the Rooftop Rumble and incorporated a fully functioning wabble squabble game into it just recently:



    The possibilities really are endless! Habbo is shifting from reliance on a team of staff to provide entertainment, towards allowing its users to have a huge creative input and redefine the game however they so wish.

    Now that gambling is gone what use do you think your furniture has? Will you keep it all? Will you find a different way to make use of it? Will you donate some of it to help some fansites in their own pursuits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakey,, View Post
    just thought i'd post my opinions on this ... i'd like to hate on me after this tho pls

    positive:
    - it gives us a life now ... no addictions to habbo no more
    - gives me a reason to not care as much anymore
    - keeps me richest as hard to earn/lose values now
    - hopefully makes trading more of a key feature


    negative ...
    - it's been part of habbo for way over 8 years, too long to change routine. people were upset about snowstorm and battleball that hadn't even been around for 8 years constantly ... so can imagine this'll remain in history for people.
    - taking away the home of people who resolve themselves around casino's. yes people may not like us but alot do like us, and we all know each other who find other activities not as stimulating.
    - personal way it's causing me so much abuse and hate for what because i lost like alot of value.
    - limits possibilities and feels like we're being treated on children being told how much dice we are allowed to use and how we ca nuse them ... to me kinda ironic how we pay to be habbo club (HC) for extra features, and dicemaster was one of the most famous original HC items along with club sofa. Now we are limited to using them, without considering how many hundreds of thousands if not couple million dice masters on .COM :L

    but end of day good and bad for me
    1. if you needed habbo to ban dice to get a life, chances are you still wont have a life.
    2. youve contradicted yourself - you say you no longer care but you still think being 'the richest' is a positive factor. as long as you believe habbo furni is important (and you evidently do), then you will still be addicted.
    3. many, many people did not use casinos - dont over estimate their worth or impact on habbo.
    4. casino noobs will no doubt find a new home

    Quote Originally Posted by jakey,, View Post
    i earned it all from scratch over the years only spent money when i was a noob and we had to use sms and stuff lul
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    moderator alert Edited by Derrener (Forum Moderator): Please do not accuse others of scamming and illegal activity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    RPers and fansite owners are still a rather large portion of the market - yes - but I hope that with the release of further bundles that allow access to wide ranges of furniture that habbos will be a little more creative with what is immediately available to them rather than striving to be the biggest and the best. But hey, there's always going to people like that, so I guess the demand for blackmarket gold will remain. Bundles are 1 measure, perhaps habbo can introduce more measures to lessen it a little.

    ss/ws/bb were fun games there is no doubt about that, they were simple yet effective, but we must remember that we are in the Wired Age now. If you can think of a concept for a game, there's sure as hell a way to make it work. A fellow forum member actually recreated the Rooftop Rumble and incorporated a fully functioning wabble squabble game into it just recently:



    The possibilities really are endless! Habbo is shifting from reliance on a team of staff to provide entertainment, towards allowing its users to have a huge creative input and redefine the game however they so wish.

    Now that gambling is gone what use do you think your furniture has? Will you keep it all? Will you find a different way to make use of it? Will you donate some of it to help some fansites in their own pursuits?
    okay well kyle i can see where your coming from upon that when i saw that room looked like a retro tbh, but yaa i do agree that the opportunities are limitless like that wired piano, or guitar hero its pretty cool but i dunno i do feel they've taken away alot of people's homes and not provided a replacement as of yet.
    To the rest of the quetion well like my furniture i really dunno what i can do with it like i'm going to keep it ... but realistically i dunno how i'm going to use it all.
    Like who knows an alternative might ome up and with the fansite question yerr i will but that's why i'm at habbcrazy now haha atleast i can do soming on habbcrazy now

    Quote Originally Posted by Okeanos View Post
    1. if you needed habbo to ban dice to get a life, chances are you still wont have a life.
    2. youve contradicted yourself - you say you no longer care but you still think being 'the richest' is a positive factor. as long as you believe habbo furni is important (and you evidently do), then you will still be addicted.
    3. many, many people did not use casinos - dont over estimate their worth or impact on habbo.
    4. casino noobs will no doubt find a new home



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    erm i don't know how you can come to that assumption that because i was milking the opportunity of arcades and dice that i had no reason, i still had a life regardless of the sino or not i just left my account on 24/7. Now i'll just even have more of a life. Moreover i havn't contradicted myself because i don't care, but i can't help that i'm still the richest and that everyone will still envy me to an extent so don't understand that lol and then thirdly, just because a bunch of people didn't use casinos, but a good amount did of us, check my dealership groups i've got over 2k+ dealers doesn't mean they automatically ruled out. Because habbo did a research and collaboration group consisting of the most popular room owners on habbo, and 3 of the 12 members were casino owners, so enough said on that point.

    Lastly i don't know how you can just say i've scammed, blackmailed and bought my wealth of the blackmarket when no-one's ever proved such a fact, so if you're going to go around waving fingers and accusing people of such activities atleast show us the proof, because i could easily say the same because you are part of a fansite. Not hard to make up a rumor or accusation is it now :rolleyes:
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakey,, View Post
    erm i don't know how you can come to that assumption that because i was milking the opportunity of arcades and dice that i had no reason, i still had a life regardless of the sino or not i just left my account on 24/7. Now i'll just even have more of a life. Moreover i havn't contradicted myself because i don't care, but i can't help that i'm still the richest and that everyone will still envy me to an extent so don't understand that lol and then thirdly, just because a bunch of people didn't use casinos, but a good amount did of us, check my dealership groups i've got over 2k+ dealers doesn't mean they automatically ruled out. Because habbo did a research and collaboration group consisting of the most popular room owners on habbo, and 3 of the 12 members were casino owners, so enough said on that point.

    Lastly i don't know how you can just say i've scammed, blackmailed and bought my wealth of the blackmarket when no-one's ever proved such a fact, so if you're going to go around waving fingers and accusing people of such activities atleast show us the proof, because i could easily say the same because you are part of a fansite. Not hard to make up a rumor or accusation is it now :rolleyes:
    im afraid you did contradict yourself, whether you choose to accept that is up to you. do you really think people envy you? truly, they dont. i do not see how 3 casino rooms being in that group proves anything; none of the rooms in that group are popular - just active - there's a big difference.

    i really dont care if its been proven or not. i know very well where you get your rares. dont waste your time attempting to convince me you got them legitimately because we both know you'd be lying.



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    Over two thousand dealers? Or the same 400 people (including duplicate accounts) in all of the dealer groups.

    And the only reason, as you should know, that those rooms were constantly popular, is solely because of LMS. Maybe not always YOUR room, but that's definitely a factor. To ignore that part of it and claim that casinos are the most popular rooms ever is pretty ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puuma View Post
    Over two thousand dealers? Or the same 400 people (including duplicate accounts) in all of the dealer groups.

    And the only reason, as you should know, that those rooms were constantly popular, is solely because of LMS. Maybe not always YOUR room, but that's definitely a factor. To ignore that part of it and claim that casinos are the most popular rooms ever is pretty ridiculous.
    Well if you look alot of them are legit, the ones removed are the same people buying on new accounts so still practically the number it says. Moreover to sum up your point ..

    just because they aren't the most popular rooms 24/7 don't mean it isn't a loss j/s

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