[Caution] Disturbing Thread

[ilovejordan]

thanks i feel sick now

[FlyingJesus]

is there ever a valid reason to inflict such pain on someone

To get your own way.

Not saying it's a "just" or "humane" reason, but it's a reason.

[Ostinato]

I think it is out of order to do it to a child as young as 9 defintely.

I wouldn't really say I support the form of torture full stop, however, then I am faced with the situation of perhaps a terrorist who holds information which could be prevented to save 1000's, if not 10 000's of lives, which makes me think well perhaps it is morally justified... :rolleyes: :s

[louder]

I don't beleive in violence, Although I have been in alot of fights etc in school, I don't bring them on, I stay away from them as much as possible, just people stir because the don't like me 'cuz I have long hair.. Wrong I know. But yeah. Voilence is wrong.

[RedStratocas]

I think it is out of order to do it to a child as young as 9 defintely.

I wouldn't really say I support the form of torture full stop, however, then I am faced with the situation of perhaps a terrorist who holds information which could be prevented to save 1000's, if not 10 000's of lives, which makes me think well perhaps it is morally justified... :rolleyes: :s

No, that does not work. You can NEVER EVER EVER capture a terrorist, and torture him into giving you information. It has NEVER worked, and NEVER will work. They are always dedicated into keeping information to them. Pluck their eyes out, they wont talk. Not to mention the Terrorists in A.Q. aren't only willing to die, theyre happy to die. You can't scare them with anything, not even pain.

[Mentor]

Recently in the U.S. we had a huge arguement on torture. On whether it is okay to use it in desperate situations. The thing people dont relize is that IT DOESNT WORK. Everyone thinks of movies when they think of torture, and how eventually the person being tortured gives in. That doesnt happen in real life. They're dedicated when it comes to not giving away information.

And the cruelty part is something to be delt with too.

Urmm i kinda think you have the wrong end of the stick here "/
Under torture anyone will tell you ANYTHING, they will admit to ANYTHING.
Thats the reason it fails, since people end up agreeing to things that arnt true, They will admit to doing things they have not done. Thats why torture doesnt work.
Terrorists aint trained indervidals they would not withstand torture, the same is true of the greate majorty of the entire planet "/
Its you whos getting confused with the movies here "/

[RedStratocas]

Urmm i kinda think you have the wrong end of the stick here "/
Under torture anyone will tell you ANYTHING, they will admit to ANYTHING.
Thats the reason it fails, since people end up agreeing to things that arnt true, They will admit to doing things they have not done. Thats why torture doesnt work.
Terrorists aint trained indervidals they would not withstand torture, the same is true of the greate majorty of the entire planet "/
Its you whos getting confused with the movies here "/

Im talking about people who actually do have information. If they wont tell you by their own will, they will NEVER tell you.

[Mentor]

Im talking about people who actually do have information. If they wont tell you by their own will, they will NEVER tell you.

Terrorists are not highly trained, a quick death ok, Torture thogh is not something they will stand by.
For exsample Threw use of torture of a captured member of alcieda the data of 9/11 was secured months before it occured, hence the whole issuse about why the Goverment failed act upon it or do somthing.
Also brings back the issuse of how the US goverment seems to think its not accountable for torture as long as it takes place outside the contary/is not done by american citizens "/

The problem remains a terrorist is just as likely to lie as to tell the truth "/ althogh conventanal interview methods can easly be empolyed to work this out "/

[Nick.]

Ewwwww.. that's sick. People that do such things should die and go to hell :[

xx

[RedStratocas]

Terrorists are not highly trained, a quick death ok, Torture thogh is not something they will stand by.
For exsample Threw use of torture of a captured member of alcieda the data of 9/11 was secured months before it occured, hence the whole issuse about why the Goverment failed act upon it or do somthing.
Also brings back the issuse of how the US goverment seems to think its not accountable for torture as long as it takes place outside the contary/is not done by american citizens "/

The problem remains a terrorist is just as likely to lie as to tell the truth "/ althogh conventanal interview methods can easly be empolyed to work this out "/

They won't give information. The U.S. did have information on 9/11 but it wasent from someone in Al-Quida.