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[Adamm]

Good find Mr.Bag

[Mentor]

Never underestimate, the paranoid, over suspicions ones

[JoeComins]

Heres a copy of my post:

I was tlaking to a friend of mine about his forum joining Zoints.
I was all for him joining, until he pointed out some things. Coudl you just clear these up for me?

His first comment:
Its looks like a pyrmaid scheme, since there maths is a paradox; The same reason we cant build powerplants that power themselves. The actal profile system looks inferor to the alpha copy I have; It's just a scheme to get people on to there site, by makeing it look like it gets them members.

My comment:
Well, OK. But what have you got to loose. You havt got that many members anyway, and it will bring alot more than it takes.

His comment:
Many of my members. The trade is slanted in their favour.

My comment:
If they wanted, they would leave anyway. One search on Google, and the find thousands of other boards.

His comment:
Well anyway, their Ads from GoogleAdsence voilates the ToS as its Dinamically Configured

He then does on to say:

Unless they give real detail on what they do I'm not trusting it. Their information is completly useless. There's no details on the functonality, the system behind it, how it's paid for, or what you get in terms of loss or statistical data. Theres NO relivent infomration there.. At all... There 10 core princibles arnt even remotly related to the subject; They just avoid the question and attempt to trick people in to beliveing they've been given answers.

Their ToS and Privacy Policy are also well hidden.

Plus, only one of the forums in the top 10. Their "top 12 forums" are approx, 500 downwards.

In the ToS and PP, theres also problems:

TOS: III. Content Rights and Restrictions:
You acknowledge that Zoints retains all proprietary rights in the Zoints website and the Service, including but not limited to design, text, graphics, other files, and their selection and arrangement (the "Content").
This means whatever you post, they have the CopyRight for the second you post it, and thers nothing you can do about it.

PP: V. Fees:
You acknowledge that Zoints reserves the right to charge for the Services or certain parts thereof, and to change its fees from time to time in its discretion. If your membership is terminated due to a breach of this Agreement, any unused portion of your fees will not be refunded.
Meaning that you could charge for every post at any time?

Also, You can charge anyone at anytime for breaking the ToS, that is already unclear?

Please can you ellaberate.

I'm now torn in 2. Between Zoints with David Chapman, and Carl Bags.

In Short:

http://zoints.com/TOS.z
- They can fine you £50 for TOS violtions.
- Charge Fees when they wish
- Own any content you post on it

http://zoints.com/privacy-policy.z
- They can see your email to Spam companys, you agree to receave spam from them
- They will redirect people from your forum on to there site when they view there profiles.

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/zoints.com
- There Not very popular in reality
- None of the top 10 biggest forums are members, only 12 from the top 100 000 or so forums, there just trying to make it sound better than it is.


THanks

Joe Comins

[Mentor]

As an update, i dont think any top 10 forums are in there, i just scanned the list and saw 1 Vb aka compatable board, looking closer theres 2 vbs in the top 10.
All the other foumrs there are custom or phpbb for the most part.Plus even they aint the biggest technicaly myspace is, 99 million users, there forum has everyone one of them as members.