Sodom and Gomorah and Homosexuality

[Mentor]

Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

"Keep my statutes, and observe them; I am the Lord; I sanctify you. All who curse father or mother shall be put to death; having cursed father or mother, their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:9

I hope you never swore at one of your parents

"And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people."
Leviticus 23:28/23:29

I hope now one has a sunday job... else its death for them as well... nice man that Leviticus

[Lycan]

Relgion doesn't control todays world -

we no longer have holy wars that is only used in conjunction with terroists now

so why do we have to fear gay.. use it as a weapon against others

i have gay friends , my brother is gay

and if i'm write 'aploygising before you die , asking for forgiveness , all sins will be forgiven' then woudn't having a gay life then aploygising for it then dying? but what is there to aploygise for... being happy... loving someone

why do have a problem today?

it will be fixed tomorrow but should of been fixed yesturday

[king_maxx]

foolish. No offence but The Sodomites wanted Sex with Lot's male visitors and the city was burned because EVERY person in Sodom practised homosexuality, except Lot's family.

written by FlyingJesus : The Genesis passages are about the cities where people bum each other get destroyed, but they aren't the only bits that condemn homosexuality. Somewhere in (I think) Leviticus there is a line "man must not lie with another man as he lies with a woman" which directly addresses the issue.

Im afraid Leviticus shares the same beliefs as Genesis seing as both contain laws similar to Mosaic Law and are both in the Torah.

[king_maxx]

I do not work on the Sabbath day and have never striked my parents. Mosaic Law is harsh and unrealistic but that is why muslims are what they are....

EternalMasque (Super Moderator) Please don't double post within the 15 minute time limit.

[FlyingJesus]

"Keep my statutes, and observe them; I am the Lord; I sanctify you. All who curse father or mother shall be put to death; having cursed father or mother, their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:9

I hope you never swore at one of your parents

"And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people."
Leviticus 23:28/23:29

I hope now one has a sunday job... else its death for them as well... nice man that Leviticus

I'm not a Christian, but despite those things obviously being outdated in society, I do think that anyone who calls themselves Christians should adhere to their own teachings. Saying "times have changed" is no excuse for changing your religion, it's complete blasphemy.

In that, yes I believe that Christians should not swear at their parents (in fact I don't think anyone should swear at their parents, just out of respect. I know I never have) and the thing about working on the Sabbath was changed in the New Testament by Jesus, so that's no longer relevant but for a good reason. If Jesus states a change then fair enough, it's a change, but I don't think society should be able to change rules of religion.

[Mentor]

foolish. No offence but The Sodomites wanted Sex with Lot's male visitors and the city was burned because EVERY person in Sodom practised homosexuality, except Lot's family.

written by FlyingJesus : The Genesis passages are about the cities where people bum each other get destroyed, but they aren't the only bits that condemn homosexuality. Somewhere in (I think) Leviticus there is a line "man must not lie with another man as he lies with a woman" which directly addresses the issue.

Im afraid Leviticus shares the same beliefs as Genesis seing as both contain laws similar to Mosaic Law and are both in the Torah.

Would you mind pointing out these Genisis 13, sodomites crimes refrances becuse there looking pretty made up to me right now "/ As you rambling about what you think they did, doesnt actualy count it as being part of the bible.


FlyingJesus: My quote was mainly to illstrate a simlar point to what you said, about chrisians picking and chooseing what parts of the bible to follow, the genral concensus is usealy that the new testiment overrides the old one. Yet if people useing the old testiment to tell people certain things = hell, then they realy have to abide by ALL the stated there, From weekly sacrivces, stoneing disobediant children to death, and staying clear of sea food which is pretty much a go straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect 200£ card "/

[Bef]

End of the day, who gives a SHIAAT? Im catholic yeh? Oh well, do i have a problem with gay people? NO. Everyone is ther own person and can express themselves in there own way.

[king_maxx]

Jesus Christ, yes I have said it.

I'm not sure if this board blocks off curses and rants but i'd love to send about 500 at you right about now. First off Sodom and Gamorah is..omg i cant even explain this to such a person of yourself. Let's get something straight first ok? IT'S GENESIS 19! NOT 13!. ok I was offended that you would misplace the Holy Torah like that, now I have a question for you..I would like to know what u are asking here is it " prove what the Sodomites did was a crime" obviously practising homosexuality was a crime because God blew the ?@#! out of the city correct? now if you're asking " prove that they were batty boy's then this is much easier they wanted sex with Lot's male visitors. please read Genesis 19 maybe...3-13 or sumwhere around there i would think it is prolly verse 5 or 6. Second of all, these laws u stated which are in the Old Testement apply to Judaism and not Christianity.

Finally this applies to everyone else.... "God made us gay! God wants us to be who we are! People are born gay! and Finally my favourite, Everyone is ther own person and can express themselves in there own way. Yes of course you're all born gay and Mohammed is evil right? Come on now how could people say that expressing yourself in your own way in terms of homosecuality is ok; I mean have you ever seen a bull have sex with a bull or anyother animal for that instance. Answer : No. Homosexuality was a man maid thing not a God Given thing

I believe that is all thanks and sorry for the inproper spelling and grammer I wrote this all double-time because I was upset at the inproper Bible refrications.

[-LegoNeek-]

If there is a God then he has the power to 'cure' gays, right?
If God has a problem with us then why doesn't he do something about it, he has the power right?
One in ten people are gay, look at it this way, probley about 3 people who you consider your best friends are gay.

edit: I probley just added something nothing to do with the thread, I don't understand all the bible books things -sobs-

Ant your wrong even if god wanted to cure gays he couldt as he gave people free will
I personally do not believe in all that stuff AS all this religious crap is the cause of most problems
The bilble is aload of CRAP ;l
People cnt help the way they are you dnt randomly wake up one day "oh today i will be gay" then a few days later change back ;l
Well someone people might do that for a laugh, But if your actually gay you cannot stop being like that, however much you try and its the same with, Gender, Race, Looks :s
You cnt have it ;l
Your allowed you view and everything but once againist all this religious crap is causing problems AGAIn ;l
Its the cause of most problems in the world ;l

[Mentor]

Jesus Christ, yes I have said it.

I'm not sure if this board blocks off curses and rants but i'd love to send about 500 at you right about now. First off Sodom and Gamorah is..omg i cant even explain this to such a person of yourself. Let's get something straight first ok? IT'S GENESIS 19! NOT 13!. ok I was offended that you would misplace the Holy Torah like that,

Ok, first of im going to take it that your stupid.

Why?
Becuse unless your jewish the old testiment is counted as part of the Bible not the Torah. If your jewish you dont go and start a rant with the words "Jesus Christ" ...

I quoted the relivent sectioned and refernced them already, all youve done is bull**** about a load of stuff never mentioned in the bible "/ I seriosly cant be arsed to memorise the bible when im nether christan or jewish, I at least know the jist of it, unlike you it seems..

now I have a question for you..I would like to know what u are asking here is it " prove what the Sodomites did was a crime" obviously practising homosexuality was a crime because God blew the ?@#! out of the city correct? now if you're asking " prove that they were batty boy's then this is much easier they wanted sex with Lot's male visitors. please read Genesis 19 maybe...3-13 or sumwhere around there i would think it is prolly verse 5 or 6. Second of all, these laws u stated which are in the Old Testement apply to Judaism and not Christianity.

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Ok, first thing, try reading Genisis 19. You may notice a distinct lack of ANY MENTION OF THE CRIMES OF SODOM... now if you read, Ezekiel 16:49 it does mention a few NON OF THEM WERE HOMOSEXUALTY.

So, what have i leant so far.
1) your an idiot
2) you dont appear to have ever read the bible
3) Your makeing stuff up.

And i thought id just mention, This ENTIRE STORY IS IN THE OLD TESTIMENT. So if your christan and useing that defence EVERY YOU HAVE SAID SO FAR is now Negated, if your Jewish, Everything ive discredited still stands. So both ways, ive pretty much destroyed your arugument...

Finally this applies to everyone else.... "God made us gay! God wants us to be who we are! People are born gay! and Finally my favourite, Everyone is ther own person and can express themselves in there own way. Yes of course you're all born gay and Mohammed is evil right? Come on now how could people say that expressing yourself in your own way in terms of homosecuality is ok; I mean have you ever seen a bull have sex with a bull or anyother animal for that instance. Answer : No. Homosexuality was a man maid thing not a God Given thing

Ill take this as proof your even stupider than i orignaly though... homosexuality is VERY VERY VERY common place within the animal kingdom, tune in to the discovery channel sometime maybe...
Also what does mohammid have to do with this?

Maybe i should clame, pizza tastes nice, which means a giant watermellon will attack the earth.... The logic is crap, and thats exsactly the logic you just used?