Opinion thread's.

[F32]

What a stupid and moronic thing to say :p I jest, but anyway, it really is annoying that people still continue to flame opinions. Why would you come to a Forum to start an arguement, I've never really got it... Thing is, I'm all up for a debate, maybe even an arguement, but sinking so low as to flame is a bit sad...

Arguements do lead to people flaming each other, almost always.

[ReviewDude]

Arguements do lead to people flaming each other, almost always.

And that's, as a general rule, when Moderators have to step in to close a thread. But if you get two or more people with conflicting opinions, they each have an equal right to post what they think - and we uphold that right.

We can't, no, stop Internet flaming, but we can make sure people know it's very much unwelcome at HabboxForum. The easy way to do that is to report every post that breaches that rule. Or any rule for that matter :p

[F32]

The first person who starts to 'flame' should be penalised and not the person defending his/her point of view.

[Mentor]

most forums dont bother trying to change human nature, and just tell people to settle it over the PM system as the rest of the forum members dont want to hear it? Personaly trying to stop it all together, is in my opinion quite a stupid and pointless thing to do, be it that its entirely impossible.
Plus arguments dont lead to flaiming, stupid people in arguments lead to flaiming. Its basicly a last ditch effort to try and pretend that there agrument hasnt been completly shreaded and discredited since it was so poorly constructed to start with o.0

[ReviewDude]

The first person who starts to 'flame' should be penalised and not the person defending his/her point of view.

That sounds fair, but imagine if that happened in real life. Sure it would be okay if...

Man A: *Throws bottle at Man B*
Man B: *Swears at Man A*

Then sure, it's obvious that Man A is in the wrong and would be arrested. But what if it went:

Man A: *Swears at Man B*
Man B: *Throws bottle at Man A*

Which is what happens on Forums. As a general rule, the arguement gets worse, and by your system only the one who posted the first, often only very slightly incediary remark - would be penalised, which isn't fair.

If someone flames you, other people will see how sad that is, you don't need to defend yourself, and if you do, don't lower yourself to their level and don't flame them back!

[F32]

That's 2 seperate situations that would have 2 seperate outcomes - you know that.

[ReviewDude]

That's 2 seperate situations that would have 2 seperate outcomes - you know that.

True, but I'm saying if in a flame war we only punished the first person who did anything, that could be something miniscule.

For instance if someone tacks on the end of their original post on, say a football opinion "and btw I only say that because City own United" then not only are they sad for saying that (because City are rubbish) they are also lightly flaming anyone who is a Man United fan... It's hard to explain, but basically anyone who defends themself is fine:

User A: You're an idiot for thinking that.
User B: I am not! It's a perfectly valid opinion.

User A gets penalised, User B gets nothing.

If, however, User B goes beyond defending himself...

User A: You're an idiot for thinking that.
User B: I am not! It's a perfectly valid opinion, you moronic cow.

BOTH User A and B get penalised, with good reason.

You see, it's about principals, no matter who starts a fight, anyone involved in making it worse has to have it added to their record.

[F32]

Provocative behaviour should be penalised and the resulting posts after should just be edited and the user PM'd to tell them it's unacceptable.

Nothing more.

[ReviewDude]

The problem with doing that is that if they do it again, they get another PM, again, another PM - and Moderators can't see what they've done previous, or the fact they've ignored a warning. That's the reason we give Infractions/Warnings, they allow us to look back and see what a user has done in the past, to influence how we deal with them

[F32]

The problem with doing that is that if they do it again, they get another PM, again, another PM - and Moderators can't see what they've done previous, or the fact they've ignored a warning. That's the reason we give Infractions/Warnings, they allow us to look back and see what a user has done in the past, to influence how we deal with them

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