Political Leaders

[Frodo13.]

yeah ok fredo, mr. left wing.
thatcher closed the mines omg.

Center-Left actually

[Mandez]

exscuse me for not caring. :rolleyes:

[Virgin Mary]

Politicians just trick everyone. That's their job. Where there's discontent among the people they'll give you an enemy so you feel united, then you just get your *** kicked by every other country.

[Frodo13.]

I also think Interest Rates are not the governments responsibilty they are the banks are they not?

Brown handed the interest rates to the Bank of England in 1997. Up untill then, they were the governments responsibility.

[:Liam]

I agree with most that have been said like margret thatcher ect.
but if hitlar wasnt a dictator he would been a great leader.
I think for leaders of the future my prediction for the best will be:

She is gonna be amazing I think. Hilary Clinton for president!

[RedStratocas]

I agree with most that have been said like margret thatcher ect.
but if hitlar wasnt a dictator he would been a great leader.
I think for leaders of the future my prediction for the best will be:

She is gonna be amazing I think. Hilary Clinton for president!

ew tbh. shes so off on so many things.

bill clinton was great though. people say "oh, but he lied!" which is why he was impeached. but all he did was get some presidential pleasure. look at our president now -- he lied to us to go to war and get thousands of people killed, yet for some reason we're still talking about how it was the right thing to do to impeach clinton after he had an affair.

i think all of us americans deserve a slap in the face for that one.

[FlyingJesus]

I'm not gonna get into the Blair vs Thatcher thing that Dan's set up because he gets all defensive about it, so I'm gonna go on about the American thing instead for a bit.

As our Red friend above said, Clinton was an excellent President. He was extremely charismatic and did a lot of things to improve the US considerably whilst not really doing any harm. I don't believe that personal matters should be used against politicians, as getting a quick suck from your secretary isn't really going to affect your decision making skills in office.
My stance is Bush is one of not really caring. Yeah he's done a lot wrong and is seen as a complete buffoon, but there must have been reasons that he was elected, and I'm sure he must have done at least some good, even if it's outweighed by the bad.

Hell on that note I am gonna go into Blairite politics after all. Blair followed Bush into Iraq and that's caused a lot of problems, but he's said time and time again that he's sorry but he did believe it to be the right thing to do at the time. I know politicians lie and cover stuff up, but when he comes out with his hands up and accepts responsibility like that, I can't help but believe that he's telling the truth on that, and that (however bad a mistake it was) it was a mistake. He otherwise did a lot of good for the country. I don't like socialist ideals really, but Blair did pick up the NHS from being an absolute crapbag to being just a pretty big bag of crap. You can quote figures of how many jobs were lost under his government, but he also created hundreds of thousands. I'm a pessimistic person myself, but I really think people need to learn to look past just bad stuff when talking about someone they don't like and appreciate the facts that they have done good stuff too.


I say stuff too much.

[Virgin Mary]

I think the BNP will end up leading Britain sooner or later, although as long as the Queen isn't removed from power (please, if she does nothing all day then why does she concern you so much?) we don't really have much to fear from our governments. Give it about another decade or so.
Americans politics never bother me, I don't see why Clinton is seen as so bad though. Does it really matter if they're not some self-righteous hick?

[RedStratocas]

I don't believe that personal matters should be used against politicians, as getting a quick suck from your secretary isn't really going to affect your decision making skills in office.

if anything, it probably helps.

and bush really didn't get elected the first time, haha. the second was a combination of things.

[FlyingJesus]

I think the BNP will end up leading Britain sooner or later,

I agree, simply because the more lax you get on liberty and multiculturalism, the closer you get to an extreme nationalist takeover such as Hitler's rise to power in Germany and to a lesser extent Mussolini in Italy.

although as long as the Queen isn't removed from power (please, if she does nothing all day then why does she concern you so much?)

I'm a pretty big supporter of the royal family. I know at the moment the Queen's only real role is to "rubber stamp" policies and laws etc, but as a figurehead and icon of what's left of our culture I think they're all important to Britain. The argument that they do nothing is, as you suggest, stupid.