Moderators editing posts

[Catzsy]

Saurav (I think it is?)/kk means his post lower down in the thread.

Like this post, it's fair because it was provoked by a misunderstanding/previous post in the thread and is replying directly to it.

Well I would say that post is off-topic. The previous post he made had off-topic elements but was also on-topic. The previous off-topic post was not edited as they were staff and it has to go the staff editor. It provides nothing constructive to the thread topic at all. It could have been easily put in a pm. We are hired to moderate by the rules of the forum so that's it really

[Hayd93]

Alot counts on the personal opinion of a moderator.There is such a fine line in some posts weather you edit or not as is the same if you infract or not.Most decisions will please majority but occasionally they think that it is wrong.Moderators are just like users we all make mistakes from time to time we are human you know.

[Thetan]

Can you provide links to any posts that have been edited where posters are not replying directly to the topic?
As you should be allowed to reply to other people's posts in a thread without having to directly post about the topic.

This is a good example right here, nobody was off topic, it was related to the topic, the moderator didnt have a clue what they were talking about, so she thought it was "pointless" and "Offtopic".

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...=474909&page=2

[Tristan]

Well I would say that post is off-topic. The previous post he made had off-topic elements but was also on-topic. The previous off-topic post was not edited as they were staff and it has to go the staff editor. It provides nothing constructive to the thread topic at all. It could have been easily put in a pm. We are hired to moderate by the rules of the forum so that's it really

I disagree. Lol.
I wouldn't say it was a Pointless post by the staff member. It is a direct reply to an on-topic post and was provoked by a comment in it. This is the same with kk's post after this. It is also a direct reply and has all stemmed from an on-topic post. kk's post was provoked by the staff member asking where and so, I wouldn't deem it pointless.



EDIT: Thetan, yeah. This is what I'm saying. I wouldn't have edited many if not any of the posts there. Kyle replies directly to the previous mentions of "4chan". The following posts are also direct replies and provoked by the question. I'd edit for posting pointlessly only posts #16, #17 & #18. #20 is off topic too, which ironically hasn't been edited which I'm going to do now.

[Catzsy]

I disagree. Lol.
I wouldn't say it was a Pointless post by the staff member. It is a direct reply to an on-topic post and was provoked by a comment in it. This is the same with kk's post after this. It is also a direct reply and has all stemmed from an on-topic post. kk's post was provoked by the staff member asking where and so, I wouldn't deem it pointless.

I didn't say it was pointless - off-topic is not pointless. Pointless is totally random like some saying ' my helicopters on fire' in the middle of this discussion. I think perhaps people are getting mixed up here between off-topic and pointless. Just because somebody posts something off-topic this does not mean that the next poster has the right to go off-topic too. We are all governed by the same set of rules.

[GhostFace-]

ill say names ive seen

Mrs.McCall
Hyd93

edit a bit to much in General


i report the mod edits every now and then bu i never get mod edits so doesnt matter much to me.

[Wootzeh]

Ye, I seem to see Hayd93 and Mrs.Mccall editting loads of posts saying they're pointless when they aren't.

[The Professor]

Ok, this is not directed toward anyone, or any Moderator.

Over the past couple days I have noticed a number forum moderators abusing their post editing powers. They have been editing posts that, really are the least bit rude, or pointless. Most of the time, they do not understand the what the person said (not incoherency), so they edit it saying it is pointless. If somebody says something towards someone, that could even SLIGHTLY be viewed as offensive, it is edited. Well, this is really irritating, because you cannot:

Make a joke
Tell someone off
Say something not directly related to the topic



Its really annoying! So next time you go to edit a post (this is to moderators), think about the post before you really irritate the poster, especially when its obvious that you did not understand what they were getting at!
Its these little things, that make this forum less casual and laid back. This forum should be a place to talk about stuff, make jokes, and sometimes when necessary tell people off who are causing trouble. You aren't the Taliban!

As much as I appreciate you're trying to do some good for the forum, your tone is really patronising. As gomme points out so many times: we are only forum members with a couple more powers on the forum than everyone else. Those powers do not make us higher and more intelligent than you, and when we occasionally get things wrong it doesn't make us lower than you. If you speak to us as equals rather than children, you might get your message across better

As for the actual topic: you say some moderators are "abusing" their powers. I'm pretty sure Minty (as is the case study here) is not a moderator with the sole aim to try and make the forum a less fun place. Unfortunately, moderators have an icredibly difficult job, and it is also based on our own judgement as well as following a black-and-white guide. These things put together mean sometimes we get things wrong, or one of us has a slightly different interpretation of the rules to the next moderator, as has been displayed by Sam & Rosie above me.

As you use the forum more and more, and take note of the edits, you start to understand where a moderator is coming from when the edits are made, even if you don't necessarily agree with them. Once you've worked that out, you'll know how to "work the system" as it were and make sure all your posts adhere to the guidelines put down by the forum. One such way to do this is to make your witty comment or comment about the user above's post count or w/e, then say "And on-topic: nope, pepper is harmless". That way you've achieved what you've wanted to achieve, saved us a job and saved yourself getting annoyed with red writing all over your posts.

That's the thinking man's way around it anyway. You'll never get all the moderators to have the same interpretation of the rules, or the same level of strictness. So instead you need to learn how to use the system in your favour.

Edit: Ghostface's post pretty much backs up what I've said. Platinum user, been here a while, knows how the system works, never gets any edits. Its simple once you know how

[today]

ill say names ive seen

Mrs.McCall
Hyd93

edit a bit to much in General


i report the mod edits every now and then bu i never get mod edits so doesnt matter much to me.

I have to agree, specially when it doesnt need editing

[Tristan]

Well they're quite new so may need a little bit of guidance.
I'd say they're doing fairly well.

This post is also fine, because it's directly replying to a comment about the two moderators.

& Catzsy, yes but we are not meant to edit with "Please post on-topic" or "Please do not post off-topic"... Since it is not written in the moderation guide... We are only able to edit with "Please do not post pointlessly"?