Our Eurovision Position?

[kk.]

btw, anyone else think jade entered YCNY really suspiciously?
15th or so, im not entirely sure how the voting system works but i still think we wont get many points from voters

[Sammeth.]

Ballads won't win eurovision, europe loves pop and rock.
We're going to finish near to last with this.

What do you mean?!?! Ballads always do well at Eurovision. Our last winning entry was a midtempo ballad, and the 2007 and 2008 winning songs were ballads.

btw, anyone else think jade entered YCNY really suspiciously?
15th or so, im not entirely sure how the voting system works but i still think we wont get many points from voters

This year its 50% Jury Voting from professionals in the music industry, all juries are made up from various aged people of various sexes to get a wider range of tastes and they bare no relation to anyone in the contest itself. In the previous years there are always juries in case televoting fails, and last year the "back up" juries who released their results had given UK high points. We could have done a lot better last year if juries had been reintroduced then, but it was 100% phone votes.

I reckon we could do well. I hope we would win, but a Top 10 would still be a victory. I'm hoping for that.

[Bef]

fact is, alot of people hate the UK so they wont vote it. the eurovision voting has nothing to do with how good the song is apart from by the judges thing u said. but the votes that matter are the public

[kk.]

so say 24 countries voted, max is 12 per country. Thats a maximum of 296? and so if youre 1st with the judges, you can get 296 straight of?

[Sammeth.]

fact is, alot of people hate the UK so they wont vote it. the eurovision voting has nothing to do with how good the song is apart from by the judges thing u said. but the votes that matter are the public

This year the Public Vote only counts for 50% as well as the jurys which also count for 50% so we will do a lot better than recent years.

so say 24 countries voted, max is 12 per country. Thats a maximum of 296? and so if youre 1st with the judges, you can get 296 straight of?

Wait what

[PriceTags]

so say 24 countries voted, max is 12 per country. Thats a maximum of 296? and so if youre 1st with the judges, you can get 296 straight of?

43 countries will vote, and each country's results will be made up of the usual 1-8, 10 and 12 points, except these will be made up half of the televote, and half of the jury vote.

So let's say the Swedish jury voted:
1 France
2 Armenia
3 Serbia
4 Spain
5 Azerbaijan
6 Slovakia
7 FYR Macedonia
8 Belgium
10 Germany
12 UK

and Sweden's public voted:
1 Slovakia
2 Germany
3 Spain
4 France
5 Serbia
6 Slovakia
7 Iceland
8 Denmark
10 Norway
12 Finland

The results would be
12 Finland (0+12=12)
10 Slovakia (6+6=12)
08 UK (12+0=12)
07 Germany (10+2=12)
06 Norway (0+10=10)
05 Denmark (0+8=8)
04 Serbia (3+5=8)
03 Belgium (8+0=8)
02 Iceland (0+7=7)
01 Spain (4+3=7)
00 FYR Macedonia (7+0=7)
00 France (1+4=5)
00 Azerbaijan(5+0=5)
00 Armenia (2+0=2)

So as you can see, with no votes from the public, the UK can still get good points. The televoters' choice overrides the Jury's, so that's why Finland's 0+12 and Slovakia's 6+6 would come above our 12+0. If the public choose a completely different 10 countries than the juries, their votes would count.

I hope this makes it clearer for you.

fact is, alot of people hate the UK so they wont vote it. the eurovision voting has nothing to do with how good the song is apart from by the judges thing u said. but the votes that matter are the public

The juries will have half of the say, so we can still win off that, because some countries will have no neighbours in the final due to the new semifinal system implemented last year, so they will vote for the songs, not for the country.

[Kardan]

12th. Nice guess I think.

[kk.]

ahh i see. I thought you meant there were just 5 judges, not 5 per country. ok ok, im thinking 12 ish too

[PriceTags]

Everyone needs to remember that a decent song can work miracles too - after an awful run of results in 1999-2001 we got a nice Joint 3rd in 2002. Then came our 26th place...

[crazed]

guestimate.

Never say that again lol ;[

I'd say last but we might come a little better..