Abortion : Right or Wrong?

[marriott0.01]

What other sane reasons could there be? Oh the condom split, that's not an efficient reason just means they were doing it too hard, or they need to invest in a better condom!

There is NO excuse for an abortion killing is killing.

[Sammeth.]

What other sane reasons could there be? Oh the condom split, that's not an efficient reason just means they were doing it too hard, or they need to invest in a better condom!

There is NO excuse for an abortion killing is killing.

Definitelynot a condom splitting. In fact that as a reason would mean an illegal abortion and rightly so. How about the fact the mother could die during birth? Or the baby will be born with severe disabilities that make living for him or her very difficult, and maybe even painful? I think those reasons are better than any, even rape, as valid reasons for abortion.

[marriott0.01]

Well if the mother is going to die, they'll have to explore every possible option before even considering abortion, if there is even the slightest chance they should take it. But if there is 0 chance the woman would die, she should have the option of a humane way like a pill. Not some of the ways they have, when it's late in pregnancy.

And if the baby is disabled, even more reason to have the baby as it means that people aren't going to give up on him, and at least he'll still see some life. A short life is better than no life.

[Sammeth.]

Well if the mother is going to die, they'll have to explore every possible option before even considering abortion, if there is even the slightest chance they should take it. But if there is 0 chance the woman would die, she should have the option of a humane way like a pill. Not some of the ways they have, when it's late in pregnancy.

And if the baby is disabled, even more reason to have the baby as it means that people aren't going to give up on him, and at least he'll still see some life. A short life is better than no life.

I don't know what the laws are like where you live but you cannot have an abortion after 24 weeks in the UK, and the methods are humane. And as you've just admitted there are at least some reasons where abortion is acceptable. And when it comes to the disabled thing I don't mean disabilities that are relatively easy to live with in a modern world where things can be adapted. I mean disabilities where babies could be put in pain every single day of their lives. If you are willing to let a child into the world knowing it will be in pain every day it lives then that's kind of harsh, even if you think its giving them a chance to see some life. A short painful tortured life isn't better than a painless death.

[marriott0.01]

It is, because they may get over the torture, and they have a choice to live, and if they decide they don't want to live anymore when they are older than they have the choice to go to switzerland.

But the baby will forget the pain, and we even have a chance that the disability won't cause pain, we won't know because it'll be unborn. Even if it has a disability then it may not cause pain there are always chances and miracles and we should always take them.

[Lee.Norman]

I agree with Sammeth.

The decision to have an abortion should always be thought through very carefully. But, in some extreme circumstances, it should the down to the mother to make the final decision on whether an abortion is the right choice.

Its not easy to give an accurate view on this, unless you have been through it. But if the mother was likely to die during birth, then she should have the option to abort the child, in order to save her own life.

So, in my opinion on whether abortion is right or wrong, it would depend on each individual situation. But sometimes, and only in extreme circumstances, its right. But if its a splitting condom or something stupid, then thats no reason to kill an unborn child.

[Sammeth.]

You cant shake off a disability? They won't just get over it just like that. I'm talking about cases where doctors can identify certain abnormalities and know what pain the baby will feel it it is born. Medicine is a lot more advanced funnily enough and doctors can spot these things early on. Relying on miracles is very naive in my opinion.

[marriott0.01]

But you can NEVER be certain, it could be common to have pain in a certain illness, but it has the slimmest chance that it won't and I would take that chance, it is the right thing to do.

[buttons]

I'm sorry Sam but you're saying a woman has the right to decide if someone else (their baby) dies??? that's not really the case, of course the unborn child can't decide for itself, but neither should anyone else. Yes, that's a silly argument but killing of any kind is illegal. But that's also another reason as to why it's wrong, they have no choice in the matter and have done nothing wrong to deserve to die. If you were asked if murder was wrong, you'd probably say yes, right?? so why is it any different to abortion, abortion is murder :/
You are right in saying the mother will have to carry the burden of giving away a child after all the pain and depression etc in going through pregnancy and labour, but they're gonna suffer the same and maybe even more by just giving it up. At the end of the day you can have your opinion because there isn't a right or wrong answer but i'm gonna stick to mine.

[Sammeth.]

But you can NEVER be certain, it could be common to have pain in a certain illness, but it has the slimmest chance that it won't and I would take that chance, it is the right thing to do.

Its what you think is the right thing to do, and thats fine, but thats you personally. It is not your decision to make though on behalf of other mothers. Until you get pregnant and come face to face with a scenario where yours or the future of your babys life hangs in the balance you will never know how it feels, and I won't even pretend to which is why I would never take away the right off another human to make decisions for themselves.

Edit: Jen, it isn't classed as murder as the baby isn't developed enough to feel any pain and it won't know at all that it ever existed or what is happening to it. After 24 weeks a death certificate is required and THATS when it becomes murder, which is wrong. A few week old baby cannot make decisions for itself so who else is left do that? Seeing as I can't, you can't, well no one can, it leaves it down to the mother to be able to make a decision about her child. You're right, there isnt a wrong or right answer - if I had the option I've said, I would never be able to get an abortion because I wouldn't be able to bring myself to. But just because I think one thing doesn't mean I should force it upon everyone.