Bring back the death penalty?

[leah]

No it shouldn't, long periods in prison is much worse than just being killed as the criminal suffers for a smaller amount of time. If the death penalty was to be used then I think it should be for dangers to society and only done on solid evidence as there are always wrongful convictions (birmingham 6) and if someone was killed for a crime they didn't commit, and then their innocence was discovered there would be hell up.

[J0SH]

That's stupid, if there's a buglar in your house you'd batter them wouldn't you? After all it's self defence so as long as you don't leave them for dead nothing will happen to you. But if people such as Josef Fritzl are getting a really long sentance, just bring back the electric chair, what a waste of tax payers money, he's going to be in there for ages reading, being lazy, sleeping etc.. Just a waste of a prison cell, they should kill him.

[GommeInc]

As tempting as it may sound to kill of murderers, chavs and half of the people on the benefits system. It still isn't right to take another persons life, enough lives have been lost already. I support the prison sentencing of murderers, though disagree with how the prison system works. People on life sentences deserve life, and life should mean life in either the lifestyle or "livelyhood", or for the rest of their life. Not 20 years but you can ask to be kicked out at 5 for example, and they should be in horrible prison cells that not even a nun would want to stay in - small, cramped and miserable. For smaller crimes, like stealing, then maybe home sentencing, so they can't leave? Though I suspect this costs alot. At the moment it is a shambles, looking at what the prisons look like at the moment, and you never hear of people saying how miserable it is and get scarred from it.

But if people such as Josef Fritzl are getting a really long sentance, just bring back the electric chair, what a waste of tax payers money, he's going to be in there for ages reading, being lazy, sleeping etc.. Just a waste of a prison cell, they should kill him.

The eletric chair is horrible, anyone who suggests the use of it should be chucked on it themselves to rid the world of sick-minded people.

[Mentor]

Well i couldn't really make much sense of the original post here, but i am 100% against reintroducing barbaric practices such as the death penalty in to the UK.

My primary reasons for this are;
1) Killing people legally (via the justice system) is no better than killing them illegally. It's purely hypocritical and indirectly makes everyone who would support such a legal structure responsible for someones death. (should we put them to death as well?)

2) No evidence can ever be 100%, reality just isn't that easy. Id rather not kill an Innocent person, regardless of how rare it may happen.

3) Prison is a much worse sentence than death for most, it can also be undone if new evidence appears.

4) Using the US as a basis, it is significantly cheaper to imprison someone for life than to
kill them under the death penalty.

5) The majority of people on death row tend to be mentally ill (based on the US, check the stats yourself), these are people we should be helping, not murdering. They are societies failures, not there own.

6) We generally scorn 3rd world countries when we here some one got stoned to death. Yet brining back capital punishment is paramount to asking us to introduce that exact same practice here.

7) By placing the power to kill in to the hands of the legal system you are more aless asking for corruption and abuse of such a system. After all, any whistle blowers would end up dead...

[buttons]

I guess I'm the only one totally for. I believe in "a life for a life" and "do the crime pay the time." If you murder then you should 100% be killed too. I agree with whoever said about the Death Penalty totally contradicting itself, no-one has the right to murder anyone under any circumstances, the death penalty is a form of murder and if anyone is sentenced to death said way then it should be a continuous circle of murdering whoever murders the other person which isn't going to solve anything but even then it's not just murder it's a punishment which is deserved. For any crime that isn't murder directly or indirectly then it should be the "do the crime pay the time" because that's what they deserve, a life away from the ones they love and without their luxury. I don't think hanging is acceptable as such because according to some (no idea how they figure this out) it's a "good" way to go because of the headrush you get before it, which sounds so stupid but why should they die happy?

I couldn't say if the death penalty works already. However, if you look a Singapore - who has the death penalty? - they have one of the lowest crime rates. I'd say that's probably down to the fear of what will happen if they commit such crimes, although in USA I know they've a very high crime rate (not as high as UK!). People don't want to go to jail but they fear death more. Death Penalty may kill a few lives but it also saves lives. Even without the death penalty, all countries are murderers. War for example, killing innocent people, at least with the Death Penalty it's killing dangerous people to society, in a sense killing someone through Death Penalty is not murder, it's a punishment in it's extremest form. Even people on Death Row get time to say goodbye, make a will, decide what they want at their funeral and then what about the innocent whom were murdered by these sick freaks? Did they get this chance?

I'm all in favour of Death Penalty if it's a murderer, if it's a minor crime they should do the time.

[Lost]

You wont believe how many arguments/debates i've had about this. so i'm only gonna say this: i think it should be brought back for certain people who have commited certain crimes (i.e really bad ones) however when the death penality was about, it wasn't properly thought through with cases, there was one woman who was falsely accused for murdering someone, and she automatically got the death penality.

I think it should be used on sick people like the men in the paper who stabbed two french students at least 250 times.

i think sentences are too easy nowadays, like pedofiles who can endager and mess up hundereds of childrens lives, only get like? what? 5-10 years in some cases? were as if you rob a bank you get like 20 years.

Basically if they were to bring it back i'd make sure the case was investigated down to a T, and it would only apply to really serious and offensive crimes such as seriel killings and perhaps child murder/rape...

although it can be a bit unfair as being a pedofile isn't something you can help, it's like being gay, you're born with that sexual urge, however if they brutally murdered the child and raped them, then yeah death pentality.

Also, if they did bring it back, I think it would be good in some cases because it would probably make loads of people think twice about what they are about to do (commit a crime) which can lead to preventing serious murders or rapes to happen.

[Mentor]

You wont believe how many arguments/debates i've had about this. so i'm only gonna say this: i think it should be brought back for certain people who have commited certain crimes (i.e really bad ones) however when the death penality was about, it wasn't properly thought through with cases, there was one woman who was falsely accused for murdering someone, and she automatically got the death penality.

I think it should be used on sick people like the men in the paper who stabbed two french students at least 250 times.

i think sentences are too easy nowadays, like pedofiles who can endager and mess up hundereds of childrens lives, only get like? what? 5-10 years in some cases? were as if you rob a bank you get like 20 years.

Basically if they were to bring it back i'd make sure the case was investigated down to a T, and it would only apply to really serious and offensive crimes such as seriel killings and perhaps child murder/rape...

although it can be a bit unfair as being a pedofile isn't something you can help, it's like being gay, you're born with that sexual urge, however if they brutally murdered the child and raped them, then yeah death pentality.

Also, if they did bring it back, I think it would be good in some cases because it would probably make loads of people think twice about what they are about to do (commit a crime) which can lead to preventing serious murders or rapes to happen.

Your right, i don't believe it? You want the death penalty for serious crimes, yet give no though to the fact nothing can be proved beyond doubt and that situations change. Most crimes are committed out of desperation and necessity, not because it might be fun. Hence the think twice effect does not really apply.
Your main argument applys mainly to the fact are prison sentencing structure is a mess, people get 20 years for a minor crime and 5 for a major one. This i agree with you on, but equally i still dont think it justifies the death penalty.
If killing is so wrong that it should deserve the death penalty in peoples minds, how can they then justify killing, indirectly, the person who originally killed someone else.
Equally life in prison is a much worse punishment than simply killing them outright and much cheaper too, meaning we can invest more money in catching other criminals instead of wasteing it all on just killing one.
Just my two cents "/

[Japan]

I don't think the death penalty should be re-introduced.
Lots of the people on death row in america are innocent and Amnesty International are highlighting this. Using jail sentences instead of death penalty means that cases can be re-opened and innocent people can be freed whereas if the death penalty was used it would have been too late.
The justice system needs improving but the death penalty isn't the answer.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I want it back to get rid of the extreme murderer's (Ian Huntley etc.), Serial killers, and sheer cold hearted acts, Like raping a child.

Other than that, Life should mean life, only if proven 100% guilty, not just because a jury think so.

You've took the words right out of my mouth.

[J0SH]

As tempting as it may sound to kill of murderers, chavs and half of the people on the benefits system. It still isn't right to take another persons life, enough lives have been lost already. I support the prison sentencing of murderers, though disagree with how the prison system works. People on life sentences deserve life, and life should mean life in either the lifestyle or "livelyhood", or for the rest of their life. Not 20 years but you can ask to be kicked out at 5 for example, and they should be in horrible prison cells that not even a nun would want to stay in - small, cramped and miserable. For smaller crimes, like stealing, then maybe home sentencing, so they can't leave? Though I suspect this costs alot. At the moment it is a shambles, looking at what the prisons look like at the moment, and you never hear of people saying how miserable it is and get scarred from it.


The eletric chair is horrible, anyone who suggests the use of it should be chucked on it themselves to rid the world of sick-minded people.

Lets keep them in a prison for all them years then, yes they've commited a really serious crime, he'll be in there for about 30 years? He's already a old man, he's going to die soon.. But it's just a waste, he's a sick man he should be killed.