RAP - ******s Attempting Poetry?

[PaulMacC]

Might I ask what you do want to hear? "Old school" rap is more likely to be gangster rap than current stuff as these days a lot of people just rap about how rich they are, and there's still plenty of lyrical genius out and about. Chamillionaire has a new album out this year and he's great with his words, Raekwon supposedly as well although I'm not holding my breath for that one as it's been due for years. Club hiphop like Soulja Boy and Flo Rida obviously isn't gonna be too deep and lyrical as it's ringtone music and just about the hook, but rap has a long way to go still before it can be declared dead

On the note of lyrics, what do rock singers usually have their songs about? Metal tends to be just about destruction and hate even though they live fairly normal lives really, so they're fakes, and most rock music is just the same love song reinvented

That's sterotyping the whole genre of rock and metal into one. You cant say that now Tom because you know there is bands there that do have meaningful lyrics.
I do listen to a small bit of rap but and the only artists I have on my PC are tupac and biggie lol

[Arch]

Might I ask what you do want to hear? "Old school" rap is more likely to be gangster rap than current stuff as these days a lot of people just rap about how rich they are, and there's still plenty of lyrical genius out and about. Chamillionaire has a new album out this year and he's great with his words, Raekwon supposedly as well although I'm not holding my breath for that one as it's been due for years. Club hiphop like Soulja Boy and Flo Rida obviously isn't gonna be too deep and lyrical as it's ringtone music and just about the hook, but rap has a long way to go still before it can be declared dead

On the note of lyrics, what do rock singers usually have their songs about? Metal tends to be just about destruction and hate even though they live fairly normal lives really, so they're fakes, and most rock music is just the same love song reinvented

Well first off i hate soulja boy, and lil wayne yeah they might be hot artists (they can sell) but lil wayne has no right to say hes the best as he always does. Just to name some stuff i like better then this new stuff , Emeniem , Immortal Technique , Jedi mind tricks , cypress hill, army of the pharaohs, wu tang clan (all the guys in it) and thats just a few i could add many many more.

Tbh, i dont mind hearing soulja boy and lil wayne, its just annoying when people think that they are the best and no one can be better, when the new guys making music were inspiried by the older ones.

yeah there is still decent stuff im not a huge fan of chamillionaire, i like raekwon but yeah. Especially when people say lil wayne is the best lyricist when in half his songs he just says money money money over and over.

ps. i wrote this up pretty fast so i prob spelt alot wrong

You forgot drugs and guns.

my badddd


edit: i use to listen to alot of rock/metal type music but i dunno i stopped so i cant rly comment on the new stuff thats out in that style of music

[Soy]

Some of the most renowned rappers (like Big Pun, Tupac) were also excellent lyricists.

There's few rappers nowadays who can spit and/ or write good poetry

[Arch]

Yepp, i remeber listening to 1 of Lil Waynes songs, he rythmes money with money with money atleast like 5 times lmao

[NEEVE]

I cant stand rap.

[FlyingJesus]

I have never understood anyone who said Lil Wayne is a good lyricist, let alone the best. It really is beyond me... he does "in rhyming" (more than one rhyme in a line) but so do I, and he hardly puts any decent metaphor into his work, it just makes no sense how people can claim he's the best around. Scarface is one of the best around lyrically at the moment but I can't stand his voice so it's wasted on me

[Arch]

You rap ?

Also yeah he might be a good seller but its just annoying when he says hes the best, and everyone thinks he is. When if you put him up agaisnt other guys he would get torn.

[Browney]

You rap ?

Also yeah he might be a good seller but its just annoying when he says hes the best, and everyone thinks he is. When if you put him up agaisnt other guys he would get torn.

he writes poems and stuff as well if I remember rightly.

but yeah, this little debate sounds alot like the stuff said by Jay-Z in his latest track, which I love btw. not neccessarily for it's meaning, as I'm not involved enough in rap to form an opinion.

[ifuseekamy]

A poem is literature, lyrics are music.

[Rarelime]

I agree with what has been said in this thread - if you want 'poetic rap' listen to the older stuff, in particular Tupac, Common and Nas. Although I'm not the biggest fan of Tupac there is no doubt he was a phenomenal lyricist, way ahead of his time imo.

Just a snippet from my favourite Tupac song, showcasing his lyrical ability.

So Many Tears:

Back in elementary, I thrived on misery
Left me alone I grew up amongst a dyin breed
Inside my mind couldn't find a place to rest
until I got that Thug Life tatted on my chest
Tell me can you feel me? I'm not livin in the past, you wanna last
Be tha first to blast, remember Kato
No longer with us he's deceased
Call on the sirens, seen him murdered in the streets
Now rest in peace
Is there heaven for a G? Remember me
So many homies in the cemetery, shed so many tears