Amnesty of active members with banned accounts

[Mentor]

My reply to six has an OR, not necessarily serial rule breakers but someone has broken a small number of rules that combined are extremely serious or one or two serious offences that justify a ban. Admittedly it wasn't very clear babes!

If the rules i broke were so serious how come i'm still a trusted member and have managed to work my way up in to habbox a good few times? Same with Robbie!, if what he did was so unacceptably bad it meant he should be banned for literally ever. how come hes a trusted and liked super mod now?
Same is true of many of members to, the reason simply being that the perms are often over the top reactions given in the heat of the moment. I've had plenty of bans overturned on this kind of subject (to the point not even a warning was what would have been acceptable, never loan a infraction or the ban i actually got)

Another proof of this is the reasons some people have, wootzy for example has a lovely

You have been banned for the following reason:

No reason was specified.



Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Which to me implies a few things about how well though out the ban really was.

Myself though, unlike Robbie! cant go look at the unacceptable posts archive, so can never really be sure how bad what i said was. I may have said some stuff in the heat of the moment, the other party i bet did to, but since they had the ban rights, i got a perm and they got off scott free.

P.S: after being warned by gomminc this thread may be closed for discussing ban reasons, i want to point out "No reason was specified." by its own admission isnt a reason so should be immune :p

[Mrs.McCall]

I understand what you're saying here but why is it so important to you to have the accounts merged? Just because the rules have changed since you received your perm ban doesn't mean that it should be undone. At the time you were permed, you were permed with good reason.

Yes, you are now a respected and rule-keeping member of the community but that's the equivalent of allowing Osama Bin Laden to be taken off the wanted list if he suddenly starts giving money to charity and opens an anti-terrorism centre (I am in no way calling you a terrorist here).

Does your old account still exist? Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they delete like tons of unused accounts?

Either way, I think by allowing this it'll just cause an administrative headache and a rather pointless exercise.

[Catzsy]

If the rules i broke were so serious how come i'm still a trusted member and have managed to work my way up in to habbox a good few times? Same with Robbie!, if what he did was so unacceptably bad it meant he should be banned for literally ever. how come hes a trusted and liked super mod now?
Same is true of many of members to, the reason simply being that the perms are often over the top reactions given in the heat of the moment. I've had plenty of bans overturned on this kind of subject (to the point not even a warning was what would have been acceptable, never loan a infraction or the ban i actually got)

Another proof of this is the reasons some people have, wootzy for example has a lovely

Which to me implies a few things about how well though out the ban really was.

Myself though, unlike Robbie! cant go look at the unacceptable posts archive, so can never really be sure how bad what i said was. I may have said some stuff in the heat of the moment, the other party i bet did to, but since they had the ban rights, i got a perm and they got off scott free.

P.S: after being warned by gomminc this thread may be closed for discussing ban reasons, i want to point out "No reason was specified." by its own admission isnt a reason so should be immune :p

I think nvr did say to send him a pm about your old account and I am sure Wootzeh could do the say when he comes back in respect of wootzy. I am sure nvr will deal with them on their individual merits.

[Mrs.McCall]

I think nvr did say to send him a pm about your old account and I am sure Wootzeh could do the say when he comes back in respect of wootzy. I am sure nvr will deal with them on their individual merits.

If he does it for one, then he'll have to do it for all. I think it'd be ridiculous. Bans are put in place for a reason and yes, things may of changed but I think they should still count.

[Catzsy]

If he does it for one, then he'll have to do it for all. I think it'd be ridiculous. Bans are put in place for a reason and yes, things may of changed but I think they should still count.

Well that is not quite true - depends on the reason for the original ban.

[Mrs.McCall]

Well that is not quite true - depends on the reason for the original ban.

So you're saying that some bans may be for no reason? That's a scandal within itself.

[Catzsy]

So you're saying that some bans may be for no reason? That's a scandal within itself.

No I am not saying that.

[Mrs.McCall]

No I am not saying that.

As Mentor has pointed out as well, some ban reasons may be unspecified. That doesn't mean there wasn't a reason. So it could mean some unfair unbans or if Nvr had to investigate the original ban it could stem back months! It'd be a huge task.

[Mentor]

I understand what you're saying here but why is it so important to you to have the accounts merged? Just because the rules have changed since you received your perm ban doesn't mean that it should be undone. At the time you were permed, you were permed with good reason.

I dont think i was banned for a reason that was even acceptable at the time, my ban was only upheld because of who it was that banned me (who later lied and claimed it wasn't till krewz posted the list after a hacking that included the record)

Equally if rules change, there is a reason. Same as with laws, or are you claiming any homosexuals jailed at times when it was illegal should have been made to stay in jail even after the law was repealed? Examples a little different, but point remains that, if a rule is removed because the rule is unjust, enforcing an unjust rule isnt really a good idea

Yes, you are now a respected and rule-keeping member of the community but that's the equivalent of allowing Osama Bin Laden to be taken off the wanted list if he suddenly starts giving money to charity and opens an anti-terrorism centre (I am in no way calling you a terrorist here).

Not quite the same was ai was a respected rule abiding member then. I was actually a manager at the beginning of the conflict, a position i managed to get as people respected me for holding my side and not being afraid to disagree with people. Incidently the same things i got banned for.
Even after than ban, habbox still trusted me enough to put me in manager/moderator and other positions again in the times after.

So despite supposedly being so bad it required a ban for life, it doesn't appear anyone though any less of me for it, as in to most members and staff what i was banned for obviously wasnt a big deal at all?

Does your old account still exist? Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they delete like tons of unused accounts?

Yea, as far as i know, they never remove them. Wootzys account is member 37 or somthing if i remember rightly and thats still here :p


Catzsy : cool, i will do so That or msg him when hes online

As Mentor has pointed out as well, some ban reasons may be unspecified. That doesn't mean there wasn't a reason. So it could mean some unfair unbans or if Nvr had to investigate the original ban it could stem back months! It'd be a huge task.

If a ban is given without reason, i really think it should just be removed point blank. I think for a mod to do so its actually against the rules, it just makes it look like it was an out of spite move and they couldnt come up with even a wishy washy attempt at a justification for the move

[Mrs.McCall]

I accept your point but you must admit that if he allows it for you and Wootzeh it'll open the floodgates...

Good luck with it though.