Republic of Ireland prepares to vote (again) on Lisbon Treaty

[GommeInc]

as explained before, it isn't exactly the same. they have legally binding guarantees exempting them from certain clauses etc made through negotiations. it's very likely to pass.

we don't vote in our PM, it's the party with the majority that chooses the PM. it's the same thing in my view.

It seems a bit silly having someone lead a super state who will have no consideration for the general public. We don't vote for who is PM, but at least we have some understanding of who it might be. It's like voting Conservative because David Cameron looks like a good leader. Compared to the EU, there's no comparison at all. You see nothing so expect little :S

[Alkaz]

If they join Tony Blair will be the President of the Eurpoean Union.
Well, we hope.

[Absently]

i hope most vote no. does not want.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I find it a bit rude that the EU, or whoever, has pushed the treaty on a country that has already said no once :/ And whenever someone asks for the benefits or why it would be good, you don't get an answer, just abuse. I noticed this on the news and in newspaper articles, where people revolve the answers around "This person is not educated enough to make these decisions."

It's also quite worrying how democracy has died and dictatorship seems to be the new calling card. Yes, EU officials can vote for who is EU President, but EU officials aren't the general public, and never will be, so don't deserve the right to vote. It should be the people living in the USoE, not the people "leading" it.

That is how the European Union works, it stresses it is democratic and is a benefit to Europe yet will not let the European people decide this for themselves, which obviously means something is up. The European President is not elected by anyone, has no democratic standing or mandate from the people of Europe yet will be making decisions on our behalf that will effect international politics for years to come, and even our own lives with over 75% of laws coming from Brussels.

Ireland should say yes then Tony Blair can make it as cheap as it possibley can for us to leave the EU totally. I am 100% again the European Union, I absolutely hate it, we no more are 'Great' Britain.

Tony Blair is very pro-European Union, just like all of Labour - once disgraced from office they can land in their nice fat-salaried jobs in the European Union, unelected because if they did have to face election we all know a anti-EU superstate person would gain office and not them. I don't see this rubbish about how the European Union needs paying for this, paying for that, why the United Kingdom has to pay EU fines - its very simple, as soon as you get into office the first document you sign is the immediate withdrawal from the European Union.

The main parties have long wanted to avoid the European issue, Labour support it fully, the same with the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives slide into meltdown everytime Europe is mentioned. The European issue is the most important issue this country faces, far bigger than the economy, crime, health, education - it is the right to govern ourselves, something we have done since 1066.

It seems a bit silly having someone lead a super state who will have no consideration for the general public. We don't vote for who is PM, but at least we have some understanding of who it might be. It's like voting Conservative because David Cameron looks like a good leader. Compared to the EU, there's no comparison at all. You see nothing so expect little :S

I couldn't agree more, but as we are told over and over again by members of this forum - apparently the European Union has averted World War III. :S

If they join Tony Blair will be the President of the Eurpoean Union.
Well, we hope.

Who wants Tony Blair as President of Europe? - theres no one i'd want less to be President of Europe, well maybe Neil Kinnock or Peter Mandelson but they've all had their gravy-train rides in Europe already. Tony Blair is hated across Europe, and incase you are forgetting; he was the one who signed away most of the rebate that Margaret Thatcher secured for us, just because the French didn't like it (despite the French also having a rebate).

i hope most vote no. does not want.

..spoken like someone who values democracy.

[PaulMacC]

I have a few relatives down south and I know what they'lll be voting.
I hope it goes no.

[lick]

Will be voted in says the polls. I'm on the fence cause in school we went onto the site and there was good and bad things.

[Niall!]

I would rather not, I have seen how the world ends and it has something to do with this.

[lick]

How did you see it lol?

[ifuseekamy]

The EU is a load of unnecessary bureaucracy forced on the more influential and powerful countries by central Europe. What possible reason is there that we need to be collectively governed?

[alexxxxx]

well rte, bbc, euronews are reporting that it's likely that it'll pass.