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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard View Post
    At talent, they clearly aren't.

    And yeah, this was a pretty selfish thing to do.
    If you win the X Factor, you automatically get a xmas number one, all other artists are overlooked. - That's selfish.

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    Joe should have been number one. He deserves to be.
    I'm burnin' up for you baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meree. View Post
    Joe should have been number one. He deserves to be.
    No he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caution View Post
    No he doesn't.
    And you're saying a song that people don't particularly like, they only voted for it under the condition that it will remove the X Factors song off the number one spot DOES deserve to be?
    i'm out of touch, i'm out of love
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    whats the big deal about this rage of the machine or what ever it's called?! I heard their song on radio 1 and it was a pile of cat poo.

    much prefer joe as number one, even tho im not a fan of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard View Post
    And you're saying a song that people don't particularly like, they only voted for it under the condition that it will remove the X Factors song off the number one spot DOES deserve to be?
    Joe's song is only in the chart because he was on the X Factor. The X Factor is set up so it finishes a week before the Christmas charts are announced, and almost guaranteeing the winner a number one. Do you think if Joe sang that song without going on the X Factor he would have even been in the charts? There is no competition for proper songs, people are given some cheesy Miley Cyrus cover.

    I personally don't like Rage Against The Machine, it's noise to me. I would have preferred Fairytale of New York or something, but it's pushing X Factor from the number 1 spot so it's fine by me.

    So to answer your question, yes.

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    At last the reign of Cowell being number 1 is over

    It just shows that a lot of people are annoyed with X Factor being at number one since Xmas 2005. Not everybody watches the pile of rubbish that is X Factor. All X factor winners disappear after Xmas anyway and then coincidently appear back on the scene just as the next series of X Factor starts.

    Good on RATM even though I don't like their song but Joe's song wasn't all what it hyped up to be.

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    Although it's bad news for joe himself, his life is still looking good right now. All this really is is a kick in the teeth for simon cowell.
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    Utter tripe. Take Simon Cowell down by buying a song on the record label he works for, very smart idea.

    So well done to all the sheep that followed whatever dumbarse thought of this idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard View Post
    At talent, they clearly aren't.

    And yeah, this was a pretty selfish thing to do.
    Firstly, if you disregard Zack de la Rocha (as I imagine what you actually mean is that he's not a better singer), I would still say that collectively Tom Morello, Tim Commerford and Brad Wilk are a lot more talented than Joe McElderry.

    Surely this whole thing is the immediate opposite of selfish? :S Look at how many people can now benefit from Killing In The Name winning with all the money it raised for charity, then look at the few big boys who would have made a few more millions in their back pocket had Joe McElderry won. You can't really complain.

    Surely the right way to look at it is just that people have got sick of the inevitability of the charts and made a good show of democracy that should surprise the industry. I think this display of solidarity is optimistic and it shows that the people won't always acquiesce. When it comes to bigger issues it's nice to know from episodes like this that people can still care enough to register their opinion. The fact that KINTN was the song picked by some random guy making a joke about the Christmas #1 chart is just that it's a token of rebellion and a general subversion of the typical genre, I wouldn't read too much into it.

    The only case against this is that a song shouldn't be used for a purpose that might (though in this case I don't think it particularly does) infringe on the artist's intended meaning. But once a song is released into the public domain, it has to be accepted that the song is now the property of the individuals listening to it, and they can attach emotions to it and interpret it how they will. Maybe you'll disagree, but I find it very compelling.

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