Police expect Mumbai-style terror attack on City of London

[Nixt]

Old news -rep ;l

No but seriously last time I was aware (it was like a year ago since I left left the army mind) there were 48 (I think) active terrorist threats in the United Kingdom, the majority of which targeted London and the rest another major city in the UK. Terrorist threat to our county is considerable, prolonged and inevitable - nothing new. The media are just making a big deal out of something that has been officially acknowledged.

Our country couldn't handle a Mumbai-style attack anyway, could you imagine our police having a shootout with crazy nutcase terrorists? I certainly can't.

There are trained departments of the police and other such security forces that can and have dealt with similar situations extremely well. The likelihood is that there would be no "shoot-out" anyway. UK policy is to control and contain the incident, a strike would only take place where risk to hostages or civilians was considerable and impending. In this instance it would be planned and calculated carefully and executed almost impeccably. Casualties would be almost certain, but we would most certainly be more prepared than the authorities in Mumbai.

[Seatherny]

On extremists, would you be more likely to suspect a young Pakistani man or a 80 year old British woman?

I could even turn it around, if the threat we were facing right now was the IRA, would you suspect a 80 year old nigerian woman or a young irishman?

Common sense before PC politics.

But what you are saying is don't search the elderly at airports :S But you want increased security.

Hey! That 80 year old British woman has a huge knife in her handbag but lets not search her because she is 80.

Er no, they should be allowed to search whoever they want in an airport.

[Nixt]

On extremists, would you be more likely to suspect a young Pakistani man or a 80 year old British woman?

I could even turn it around, if the threat we were facing right now was the IRA, would you suspect a 80 year old nigerian woman or a young irishman?

Common sense before PC politics.

It's not PC politics, it's common sense! I normally appreciate the points you make, but quite frankly this is ridiculous. Obviously members of any form security service will suspect people on the basis of stereotypical views more than they would suspect an 80 year old woman, nevertheless if suspicions are aroused they should most certainly be allowed to search an 80 year old woman. Anyone can be a terrorist. Anyone can be influenced to break the law or do bad things. If terrorists saw that we were lax in security when it came to older British people, they would inevitably exploit that hole. You are at the other end of the extreme now, PC politics is ridiculous, but compromising British security in an effort to discredit it is even more foolish.

[Agnostic Bear]

Why don't we just fight back, nuke I say!

Nuke the lawless area, yes. That would solve 90% of the problems in a matter of seconds.

[kk.]

One will come, but more fool us (or more so our politicians) for allowing open borders in which islamic extremists can easily get into the United Kingdom via either our own floppy immigration controls (which don't exist) or through the free-movement around the European Union scheme. We don't have any idea who or how many nutters are in this country and entering this country as we speak now.

Our country couldn't handle a Mumbai-style attack anyway, could you imagine our police having a shootout with crazy nutcase terrorists? I certainly can't.

you really are sticking to your UKIP view points. Id almost think youd been brainwashed by a member lol. brought up british islamic extremists could cause this attack, are you going to blame them? i mean, theyre british, their nationality is british, so therefore, britain should be concerned as a country for terror. especially if this british person went on to attack a different country.

youve basically just stereotyped the whole of the immigrated public that are in this country as terrorists. many people provide skills and jobs for britain, the vast majority actually. very, VERY, few are actually extremists.

Nuke the lawless area, yes. That would solve 90% of the problems in a matter of seconds.

but would also cause nuclear warfare, which would end pretty much everything. The allies with these countries, or people that disagree with the action would react, which is why the UN exists.

[-:Undertaker:-]

But what you are saying is don't search the elderly at airports :S But you want increased security.

Hey! That 80 year old British woman has a huge knife in her handbag but lets not search her because she is 80.

Er no, they should be allowed to search whoever they want in an airport.

The thing is, and the thing which you are ignoring is that 80 year olds don't tend to carry a huge knife/bomb in their handbag.

It's not PC politics, it's common sense! I normally appreciate the points you make, but quite frankly this is ridiculous. Obviously members of any form security service will suspect people on the basis of stereotypical views more than they would suspect an 80 year old woman, nevertheless if suspicions are aroused they should most certainly be allowed to search an 80 year old woman. Anyone can be a terrorist. Anyone can be influenced to break the law or do bad things. If terrorists saw that we were lax in security when it came to older British people, they would inevitably exploit that hole. You are at the other end of the extreme now, PC politics is ridiculous, but compromising British security in an effort to discredit it is even more foolish.

If suspicions are aroused then by all means search them, if not then do not search them - simple as that.

On anyone, yes anyone can be a terrorist, but the fact of the matter is that islamic terrorists tend to be young in their twenties and are usually (from family history) from Pakistan and other Arab nations.

you really are sticking to your UKIP view points. Id almost think youd been brainwashed by a member lol. brought up british islamic extremists could cause this attack, are you going to blame them? i mean, theyre british, their nationality is british, so therefore, britain should be concerned as a country for terror. especially if this british person went on to attack a different country.

youve basically just stereotyped the whole of the immigrated public that are in this country as terrorists. many people provide skills and jobs for britain, the vast majority actually. very, VERY, few are actually extremists.

Brainwashed because I believe in a viewpoint thats different to yours? - I don't stick to party politics, I used to be very much supportive of the Conservative Party but now I am not, and if I did not agree with UKIP over many things I would not support them anymore, just like i'm pretty sure UKIP support devolution, whereas I do not.

On sterotyped, I have not sterotyped anybody at all. This is where the discussion always goes off the rails because it then goes onto sterotypes and eventually racism - all I want is control over our own borders to protect the people of this country from islamic extremism which is festering itself in this country. One cannot preach for safety in airports yet continue to allow any tom, richard or harry into the country.

[Alkaz]

This country takes too much ****, what happened when Maggie Thatcher sent the IRA into the Iraq/Pakistan (Cant remember) embassy in London when it was taken over by terrorists, it showed the world that we wasn't scared and that we would kill. We're too scared to do anything like that now and its disgusting. If anything like that happens in London, its the approach we should take.

[-:Undertaker:-]

This country takes too much ****, what happened when Maggie Thatcher sent the IRA into the Iraq/Pakistan (Cant remember) embassy in London when it was taken over by terrorists, it showed the world that we wasn't scared and that we would kill. We're too scared to do anything like that now and its disgusting. If anything like that happens in London, its the approach we should take.

Exactly, and thats exactly why I do not think this country could handle a terrorist attack now.

Could anyone seriously imagine this government sending the navy to the Falklands to liberate it from Argentine forces? - this government couldn't run a sweet shop let alone fight a war (as proved in Iraq and Afghanistan when soldiers were sent in with poor equipment and no equipment at times).

[Alkaz]

I think Anne Widecombe would be a great PM. She would certainly sort this country out.

[kk.]

Just so you know, what i meant by brainwashed was a joke. Its like in the rage against the machine thread where people say that we've been manipulated into liking mainstream music, or thinking an iPhone is the best phone out atm.