Argentina asks UN to bring UK into talks

[-:Undertaker:-]

The Obama administration is an absolute disgrace, while I disagreed anyway with Britain fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan alongside the United States; they refuse to even support the UK in its diplomatic defence of the islands of which we had since before Argentina was even a nation state. They say go home (the South Americans) so perhaps they would all like to return to where they all came from which was Spain and Portugal? - ahh, only works one way as usual.

The Poll is extremely narrow and doesn't mention negoiation at all either directly or via the UN. It's not a black and white issue as the poll seems to suggest.

To add to this anyway, theres one vital point you continue to dodge everytime which is that the people of the Falklands do not want to negociate, they are British and the islands are British - there is nothing to talk about, nothing to discuss and nothing to compromise over. If France wanted to discuss whether or not London was a part of the UK, would you support entering talks with France over that?

The Falklands colony is no different to London, Liverpool, Bristol, Manchester, Devon or anywhere else in the United Kingdom and its colonies.

[Suspective]

What actually is Argentina's motive for this relaunched operation on the islands? Are they trying to wreck relations? Gain even more land and power?

or are they even in it for the oil?

[-:Undertaker:-]

What actually is Argentina's motive for this relaunched operation on the islands? Are they trying to wreck relations? Gain even more land and power?

or are they even in it for the oil?

They want the land, oil and often use the issue as an excuse to drum up support to save their government. Back in the 1980s when they last invaded, the invasion was only launched because the regime that Argentina had in power was on its last legs and needed to try and drum up some support for the government - our invasion helped futher weaken the regime and eventually it collapsed.

At the moment the Argentine government is facing economic problems and an election is around a year off I think so they are very keen to make it seem as though its the 'government vs the imperialists'. Our quick response last time helped take them by suprise as they had expected the British to be too weak to attack back, but we did and we won them.

[Suspective]

Thanks for clearing that up.

If I'm honest I can't see the locals who occupy the islands to keen on Argentina ruling the island. A large majority of the population are either Falkland Islander British or simply British.

Why would they want a foreign country with a foreign language taking over there island? In addition, we aren't really to in control of the island. The British Government has handed many of the responsibilities to the Falkland Government excluding the management of defense and foreign affairs understandably.

In my eyes, they are basically invading the island for their own gains. Which is pretty out of order. I am sure their lives under British control would be much more happier and straight forward compared to being under Argentinian control.

[xxMATTGxx]

Thanks for clearing that up.

If I'm honest I can't see the locals who occupy the islands to keen on Argentina ruling the island. A large majority of the population are either Falkland Islander British or simply British.

Why would they want a foreign country with a foreign language taking over there island? In addition, we aren't really to in control of the island. The British Government has handed many of the responsibilities to the Falkland Government excluding the management of defense and foreign affairs understandably.

In my eyes, they are basically invading the island for their own gains. Which is pretty out of order. I am sure their lives under British control would be much more happier and straight forward compared to being under Argentinian control.

You are right about the people living there, they just want to be British and live their lives. They do not want another country invading them and taking over their land.

[dbgtz]

I'm honestly suprised were not in world war III. I think it's more publicity tbh, when do you see Argentina in the news? They're unimportant and the US are being ridiculous, they won't defend land of their "special relationship" country but they'll invade, I mean "defend" a completely irrelevant country.

[xxMATTGxx]

Argentina is to seek the backing of the United States in its dispute with Britain over Falklands oil exploration as President Kirchner prepares to meet Hillary Clinton next week.

Fresh from an inconclusive meeting at the UN, where Argentina failed to secure anything other than a vague acknowledgement of its concerns, Buenos Aires has turned its gaze to Washington in its attempt to stop what it says are illegal British activities in the disputed islands.

The hastily scheduled meeting, announced by Hector Timerman, the Argentine Ambassador to Washington, will take place in Uruguay on Monday, when Mrs Clinton will attend the presidential inauguration of José Mujica. Argentina will be pressing the White House to drop its declared neutrality and support Buenos Aires in the dispute, which looks set to deteriorate further.

Though President Reagan gave public backing and vital intelligence to Britain in the 1982 conflict over the islands, senior US officials now insist that Washington will stick with a policy of non-intervention. Philip Crowley, the State Department spokesman, said that the US maintained a position of neutrality but encouraged “good faith dialogue”, adding that if both sides requested mediation “we would consider it”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7041745.ece


So they want to get the US on their side now eh? Typical.

[Nixt]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7041745.ece


So they want to get the US on their side now eh? Typical.

Lol who the hell are they kidding? They don't stand a chance

[FlyingJesus]

Obama: blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...is-a-disgrace

Was anyone else expecting something quite different when they clicked the link that displayed itself like this lol

I'm honestly suprised were not in world war III. I think it's more publicity tbh, when do you see Argentina in the news?

WWIII over the Falklands? I hardly think that too likely. As for publicity I don't think countries tend to invade each other just to get in the news, and with the world cup coming up Argentina will be fine for publicity.


That quote from the Brazilian president doesn't seem to add up somehow. "Could it be because England is a permanent member of the UN's Security Council [where] they can do everything and the others nothing?" seems to suggest that we're actually in charge of something, which surely hasn't been the case for almost a century.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I wonder what the US would of thought if the UK had remained 'neutral' when the twin towers were destroyed?

I think now the US's true colours are coming out again because they have a history throughout with only looking after their own interests and leaving their 'friends' to it when they need help; in World War II they only joined in anyway because they became under threat as the Japanese Empire attacked them. The Suez Crisis - America threatened to pull the plug on the pound sterling if we did not abandon our own canal to the Epyptian government. Infact the only time America has only really been a true allie was when it was the Thatcher-Reagan partnership and of course they are no longer in office - even back then, the US refused to acknowledge that the UK has sovereignty over the Falklands.

Lets leave Afghanistan and prepare to defend our sovereign territory, leave Obama to carry on with his Vietnam.