Nigel Farage launches tirrade against unelected President of Europe

[Black_Apalachi]

... As for President Rumpy Vun Pumpy Who is this man? - who elected him? - and who asked for him? ...

What are the actual answers to this?

[-:Undertaker:-]

What are the actual answers to this?

Who elected this man? - nobody in Europe elected this man.
Who asked for him? - nobody in Europe asked for or wanted this man.

I was never asked, the British people were not asked and most of Europe was never asked. Infact when the people of Europe were asked, they all came back and said no (French, Dutch and Irish referendum results) but then the EU managed to use our money on a massive propaganda machine in Ireland and managed to get RyanAir on its side (of which has previously been very anti-EU) because coincidently RyanAir had a court case/legal case with the EU coming up about a possible buyout of another airline (thats from what I remember). How strange that just before a case like that, RyanAir suddenly change opinion. I certainly do not smell corruption. :rolleyes:

Anyway they made Ireland vote again (so much for democracy) and even voted in the EU parliament before the second Irish referendum that they would totally ignore the result anyway if it was a no vote. You see, the EU don't like being told no and thus why they are terribly afraid of any referendum and the Lisbon Treaty removes and need for another referendum because its self-amending. It can only been seen by Van Rompuy who is only a few months into the job and hes already preparing to seize more powers for himself and the European Union. It will continue now drip by drip, piece by piece that powers are taken away from nation-states across Europe and the EU will be firmly in control. In a sense, it doesnt matter who you vote in a General Election anymore because its not them who run the country, its the unelected courts of the EU, its Comission and its President.

We call countries like Zimbabwe and Iran tinpots for fixing their election results yet we are not even given a vote in the western world for something as important as this, and even when we do vote (the Irish only got a vote because their consitution legally requires them to) if you give the 'wrong answer' to the EU, they keep making you vote anyway until you come back with the 'right answer'.

As for President Klaus of the Czech Republic who was the man who tried to halt the Lisbon Treaty, he was threatened by the EU in public who warned him of dire consquences if he did not sign the treaty and so forth, much like the Irish were told the second time around. That is how these people deal and operate and afterall most of them have experience in & with the former dictatorship of the Soviet Union and thats a solid fact.

[Bun]

farage made himself the laughing stock of politics when he did this the other day. fair enough criticise progress, criticse policies, criticise agendas, but leave the name calling and insults to the press yeah?

[Catzsy]

farage made himself the laughing stock of politics when he did this the other day. fair enough criticise progress, criticse policies, criticise agendas, but leave the name calling and insults to the press yeah?

Precisely which was summed very well by the Editor of the Times yesterday.

The comment was headed 'A Damp Rag' - Nigel Farage is an embaressing figure who does not speak for England'. The conclusion was....This newspaper did not want a leader of the European Council either. But no. Mr. Farage you do not speak for the majority of the British people. They would not dream of being so pathetically rude and neither do they relish being represented by the political equivalent of Alan Partridge. On the inside pages an article goes on to say:

'Nigel Farage was today accused of using personal insults to win publicity after he called the EU’s new president a “damp rag” and dismissed his native Belgium as a non-country.

The former leader of the UK Independence Party showed his gift for finding the media spotlight by launching a vitriolic attack against Herman Van Rompuy, the former Belgian Prime Minister chosen to lead the European Council.

His calculated attack came as part of a strategy to build his profile for a general election battle with Speaker John Bercow in Buckingham.

The Times understands that Mr Farage is determined to be censured or suspended from the European Parliament to help with his Westminster campaign.'

Sounds about right to me - a publicity stunt to get himself in the spotlight and get out of his obligations to the EU so that he can canvas for the general election. Hope he gets suspended without pay as this is a cynical ploy.

Further on its says that he is planning to wear shorts and a school cap to his meeting on Tuesday with the EU President. Asked whether he was trying to get himself banned, Mr Farage told The Times. ' You should make up your own mind, mate.' What an intelligent reply.:rolleyes:

[-:Undertaker:-]

Precisely which was summed very well by the Editor of the Times yesterday.

The comment was headed 'A Damp Rag' - Nigel Farage is an embaressing figure who does not speak for England'. The conclusion was....This newspaper did not want a leader of the European Council either. But no. Mr. Farage you do not speak for the majority of the British people. They would not dream of being so pathetically rude and neither do they relish being represented by the political equivalent of Alan Partridge. On the inside pages an article goes on to say:

Sounds about right to me - a publicity stunt to get himself in the spotlight and get out of his obligations to the EU so that he can canvas for the general election. Hope he gets suspended without pay as this is a cynical ploy.

Further on its says that he is planning to wear shorts and a school cap to his meeting on Tuesday with the EU President. Asked whether he was trying to get himself banned, Mr Farage told The Times. ' You should make up your own mind, mate.' What an intelligent reply.:rolleyes:

Sounds to me like a real politician, someone who will stick up for this country in Europe. I'm sure you also support going futher with those that Farage mentioned in the video who have called people who object to the treaty 'mentally ill' and people such as President Sarkozy who has said the President of the Czech Republic, Valclav Klaus does not deserve respect - am I correct? To the point really do you not also agree that senior EU officals demanding the Irish vote again because they 'got it wrong' is more rude and arrogant than the comments Farage made(?) because I certainly do. Or even we could carry on where the Labour Minister Caroline Flint who was Minister for Europe said that the British people do not deserve a referendum on Europe because 'we do not understand' despite the fact she never read the Lisbon Treaty herself.

Still though, at least Farage hasnt got his members of staff phoning up anti-bullying helplines because if you think Farage should be suspended for this then surely you agree Mr Brown should be removed from office immediately as would any head of an organisation with staff complaints of bullying against them would be?

This was a very clever plot to get media attention and it has because its the only way the BBC and co. will give airtime to anyone against the European Union; I think Mr Farage is on his way to throwing Speaker Bercow out come the General Election. Opinion polls and odds back in 2009 showed that 64% of people on Conservative Home would vote for Farage over Bercow and that will have gone up thanks to this latest ploy because as Gomme said, what Farage said really appeals to most people in this country with any ounce of common sense.

[Catzsy]

Sounds to me like a real politician, someone who will stick up for this country in Europe. I'm sure you also support going futher with those that Farage mentioned in the video who have called people who object to the treaty 'mentally ill' and people such as President Sarkozy who has said the President of the Czech Republic, Valclav Klaus does not deserve respect - am I correct?

Still though, at least Farage hasnt got his members of staff phoning up anti-bullying helplines because if you think Farage should be suspended for this then surely you agree Mr Brown should be removed from office immediately as would any head of an organisation with staff complaints of bullying against them would be?

This was a very clever plot to get media attention and it has because its the only way the BBC and co. will give airtime to anyone against the European Union; I think Mr Farage is on his way to throwing Bercow out come the General Election.

Not a good analogy Dan. Nothing has been proved about Gordon Brown one way or the other and if it was proved yes he would have to answer for it and I would agree with those proceedings. On the other hand Farage was extremely rude about another member and in fact insulted a whole country. Actually it is the BBC who is using Farage to get their Question Time viewing figures up not the other way around - they know a good opportunity when they see one.

Sorry I agree with The Times - this will backfire and come back to bite him in the ass big time. I had some time for the gentleman before this but he is using cheap stunts to get attention and he will be crucified on Question Time.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Not a good analogy Dan. Nothing has been proved about Gordon Brown one way or the other and if it was proved yes he would have to answer for it and I would agree with those proceedings. On the other hand Farage was extremely rude about another member and in fact insulted a whole country. Actually it is ther BBC who is using Farage to get their Question Time viewing figures up not the other way around.

Sorry I agree with The Times - this will backfire and come back to bite him in the ass big time. I had some time for the gentleman before this but he is using cheap stunts to get attention and he will be crucified on Question Time.

Oh come off it, was it not 4+ people phoned up this confidential helpline and have accused the Prime Minister of bullying(?), so are they all lying and Mr Brown is the only one telling the truth? - I don't think so. Its not as if they have all decided to gang up and the charity is also against Mr Brown, and are Number 10 not also refusing to hold an investigation into these claims so I wonder what they have to hide? :rolleyes: - The BBC point anyway, Farage was due to appear a few weeks ago but either the BBC withdrew the invititation or Farage cancelled for some reason; either way it benefits both the BBC in terms of viewing figures and Farage in publicity. He may not get much support in Wales, but what he says rings a bell with Middle England who are quite frankly sick of the main parties and their lies.

It'll backfire in the sense that it'll turn even more left-wing supporters and some Belgians against him and UKIP, but who cares really because they would never/can not vote for UKIP anyway. In the sense of Belgium, hes stating a fact; Belgium is an artificial country that is very small and enjoys being in the EU because of the power and influence it brings. In essence, a non-country.

[Catzsy]

Oh come off it, was it not 4+ people phoned up this confidential helpline and have accused the Prime Minister of bullying(?), so are they all lying and Mr Brown is the only one telling the truth? - I don't think so. Its not as if they have all decided to gang up and the charity is also against Mr Brown, and are Number 10 not also refusing to hold an investigation into these claims so I wonder what they have to hide? :rolleyes: - The BBC point anyway, Farage was due to appear a few weeks ago but either the BBC withdrew the invititation or Farage cancelled for some reason; either way it benefits both the BBC in terms of viewing figures and Farage in publicity. He may not get much support in Wales, but what he says rings a bell with Middle England who are quite frankly sick of the main parties and their lies.

It'll backfire in the sense that it'll turn even more left-wing supporters and some Belgians against him and UKIP, but who cares really because they would never/can not vote for UKIP anyway. In the sense of Belgium, hes stating a fact; Belgium is an artificial country that is very small and enjoys being in the EU because of the power and influence it brings. In essence, a non-country.

I don't hold with the conspiracy theories, Dan. All staff were contacted to
make sure they knew the procedure for complaining . The owner of the helpline has been completely discredited and now says one member of staff rang up. It wouldn't bother me if he was hauled up before the standards committee - I would be pleased to see the back of him. No need to have go at Wales, because of me as in fact I have lived in Middle England and was born in London. Have you ever been to Belgium? No excuse for slighting a nation though is there whatever he thought of them. Personal insults never do anybody any good and as somebody, but I can't think who now, said 'he confuses personal insults with serious politics'. People will not take him seriously anymore - he has made a monumental blunder. He should have let his policies do the talking - some of which make sense.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't hold with the conspiracy theories, Dan. All staff were contacted to
make sure they knew the procedure for complaining . The owner of the helpline has been completely discredited and now says one member of staff rang up. It wouldn't bother me if he was hauled up before the standards committee - I would be pleased to see the back of him. No need to have go at Wales, because of me as in fact I have lived in Middle England and was born in London. Have you ever been to Belgium? No excuse for slighting a nation though is there whatever he thought iof them. Personal insults never do anybody any good as a somebody but I can't think who now said 'he confuses personal insults with serious politics'. People will not take him seriously anymore - he has made a monumental blunder.

What conspiracy is there? - its fact that members of Number 10 phoned up this confidential anti-bullying helpline and have said that Mr Brown is bullying them and other members of staff. Its not as if its David Cameron claiming this, its members of his own staff who have said they have been bullied.

You are trying to gage the topic away from Brown himself now, we are not talking about the director of the charity and I couldn't care less about him/her. It seems to me you dont like Mr Brown being exposed as the bully he is (again pretty much fact because members of his own staff have said this for non-politicial reasons). Number 10 have refused to hold an investigation into these accusations have they not(?) so what does that really tell you about it. If they had nothing to hide then they would hold an investigation into these claims.

No I have not been to Belgium but it doesnt take much to;

a) look on a map of Europe and see how small Belgium is.
b) briefly read some Belgian history which shows it was artificially created.
c) to see that the Flems and Walloons have deep tensions between them.
d) to see that we have an unelected Belgian incharge of Europe.

So on Farage if you actually look around, you'll see hes done quite good for himself and if futher drumming up support. If what i've seen when i've looked around had lost him support then i'd come right out and say that but its actually doing the opposite. In one way, if he is thrown out of the EU Parliament or suspended from it as he very well may want; it just futher proves and shows how biased, unfair the EU is and how it is unable to take any criticism what so ever. (as proved by my various example)

[Catzsy]

What conspiracy is there? - its fact that members of Number 10 phoned up this confidential anti-bullying helpline and have said that Mr Brown is bullying them and other members of staff. Its not as if its David Cameron claiming this, its members of his own staff who have said they have been bullied.

You are trying to gage the topic away from Brown himself now, we are not talking about the director of the charity and I couldn't care less about him/her. It seems to me you dont like Mr Brown being exposed as the bully he is (again pretty much fact because members of his own staff have said this for non-politicial reasons). Number 10 have refused to hold an investigation into these accusations have they not(?) so what does that really tell you about it. If they had nothing to hide then they would hold an investigation into these claims.

No I have not been to Belgium but it doesnt take much to;

a) look on a map of Europe and see how small Belgium is.
b) briefly read some Belgian history which shows it was artificially created.
c) to see that the Flems and Walloons have deep tensions between them.
d) to see that we have an unelected Belgian incharge of Europe.

So on Farage if you actually look around, you'll see hes done quite good for himself and if futher drumming up support. If what i've seen when i've looked around had lost him support then i'd come right out and say that but its actually doing the opposite. In one way, if he is thrown out of the EU Parliament or suspended from it as he very well may want; it just futher proves and shows how biased, unfair the EU is and how it is unable to take any criticism what so ever. (as proved by my various example)

Fact? Show anything that it has been factually proved that members of Browns staff rang the helpline? Again I say I am not bothered if he is proved to be a bully. Remember my last post? I seriously cannot take your comment on Belgium seriously. The fact that a belgian is in charge of Europe is no excuse for Farage insulting the whole nation. There was no need for it. I am actually listening to Question Time at the moment to see how he did.