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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    you get problems then where people can't actually afford to go home. infact that's happened already where migrant workers unable to claim benefits literally had to camp in the woods in their cars as they couldn't afford to go home.

    if you keep telling yourself that 'everyone comes here for the benefits system' - it doesn't make it anymore true.
    If somebody is financially incapable of supporting themselves, is a criminal or the fact that we do not need their skills or does not work then we do not want them and they should not even be allowed into the United Kingdom and past its borders. As for the benefits system of course its true, thats why they travel across Europe, camp in France and wait to get shipped over here because it certainly isnt the weather that attracts both migrants and asylum seekers, its the money.

    Why should my parents and people across this country fund this ridiculous scheme that puts even more costs ontop of the absurd EU payments we make every day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Or even better; dont let them in in the first place!

    Imagine the money that would solve in red tape costs as well - its useless me saying the same old common sense argument though because our unelected leaders dont have an ounce of it in them (along with our elected ones). The French government and others may have this problem coming up as well; but it wont really effect them because everyone comes to Britain with its generous benefits system anyway.
    And what about the migrants who are coming over here to work? Most UK companies who employ foreigners wouldnt be able to survive with english workers. We're slower, and want to be paid more. You'd be a fool not to take up the opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    If somebody is financially incapable of supporting themselves, is a criminal or the fact that we do not need their skills or does not work then we do not want them and they should not even be allowed into the United Kingdom and past its borders. As for the benefits system of course its true, thats why they travel across Europe, camp in France and wait to get shipped over here because it certainly isnt the weather that attracts both migrants and asylum seekers, its the money.

    Why should my parents and people across this country fund this ridiculous scheme that puts even more costs ontop of the absurd EU payments we make every day.
    maybe have you thought that they were once financially capable, contributed to the economy, paying taxes, lost jobs through recession? of course you haven't. you've thrown up the daily fail rhetoric once again.

    have you maybe thought about the thousands of illegal immigrants living in germany, france, spain and italy - no, because they ALL come to britain :rolleyes: Those waiting to smuggle themselves into the UK without papers are illegal immigrants. they aren't asylum seekers, they may try to claim asylum when caught. illegal immigrants are not entitled to benefits. you are right - they are attracted by the money, the money they can earn in the labour market here. the fact of the matter is that these immigrants make the british economy much more competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk. View Post
    And what about the migrants who are coming over here to work? Most UK companies who employ foreigners wouldnt be able to survive with english workers. We're slower, and want to be paid more. You'd be a fool not to take up the opportunity.
    As I said in the very passage you quoted; if we need them then they are welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    maybe have you thought that they were once financially capable, contributed to the economy, paying taxes, lost jobs through recession? of course you haven't. you've thrown up the daily fail rhetoric once again.

    have you maybe thought about the thousands of illegal immigrants living in germany, france, spain and italy - no, because they ALL come to britain :rolleyes: Those waiting to smuggle themselves into the UK without papers are illegal immigrants. they aren't asylum seekers, they may try to claim asylum when caught. illegal immigrants are not entitled to benefits. you are right - they are attracted by the money, the money they can earn in the labour market here. the fact of the matter is that these immigrants make the british economy much more competitive.
    Oh get over the Daily Mail now because you dont seem to be able to debate your point without mentioning the papers, I could go on about the Guardian all day long if I wanted to but we'd still be none the wiser. The issue at hand; the issue is not that, the issue is that people who come to Britain pretty much instantly will be able and viable to claim on the benefits system meaning people can just come in, not have to work at all and simply claim benefits.

    As for the last part, no not all come to Britain but a fair share to, an overly fair share hence why they travel across various Oceans and seas and across the European mainland to get to Britain, not to mention the fact they then wait in France (one of the richest countries in the world and better standards of living) and come across to here. It can be economical if managed properly but in its present form it is putting an enormous burden on the taxpayer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    As I said in the very passage you quoted; if we need them then they are welcome.
    did you :S

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