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    Quote Originally Posted by jrh2002 View Post
    After 13 years of what I would call a failed attempt to make britain better surely another party deserves a chance? and then if the new party in power fails then they deserve to be voted out? These people who still support Labour remind me of loving deluded relatives who keep giving their gambling drunk relation some cash to pay all the household bills only to find out its all been pissed up the wall and put on horses.......
    Conservatives want things such as:

    # Clear financial performance targets for senior civil servants

    # Failing schools to be inspected more often - with the best schools visited less frequently

    My college was put in special measures and was inspected very often. How "often" does Cameron want it???!? :S Its just wasting more money

    # Clamp down on marketing aimed at children

    Great?

    Labour want things which will help people. i.e.

    * No stamp duty for first-time buyers on all house purchases below £250,000 for two years, paid for by a 5% rate on homes worth more than £1 million.

    * National Minimum Wage to rise in line with average earnings.

    * Help for parents to balance work and family life, with a "Father's Month" of flexible paid leave.

    Now you tell me, which sounds better? Anyone who says Conservatives are the "deluded" ones.

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    babe no matter who comes into power the £176 bn fiscal deficit simply wont vanish overnight it'll take a good few years xox

    and you dont win a general election, you lose one. nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dander View Post
    Conservatives want things such as:

    # Clear financial performance targets for senior civil servants

    # Failing schools to be inspected more often - with the best schools visited less frequently

    My college was put in special measures and was inspected very often. How "often" does Cameron want it???!? :S Its just wasting more money

    # Clamp down on marketing aimed at children

    Great?

    Labour want things which will help people. i.e.

    * No stamp duty for first-time buyers on all house purchases below £250,000 for two years, paid for by a 5% rate on homes worth more than £1 million.

    * National Minimum Wage to rise in line with average earnings.

    * Help for parents to balance work and family life, with a "Father's Month" of flexible paid leave.

    Now you tell me, which sounds better? Anyone who says Conservatives are the "deluded" ones.
    Labour have lied and lied and you believe them?

    The minimum wage has cost a lot of jobs which then puts the person on benefits as well as working on the black market not paying any taxes.

    If I employed people I would make sure those people knew their hours of work when they come for the interview and if they wanted to have flexible leave then I would give them plenty of family time and thats on the dole.

    Dont care about stamp duty as I would not tie myself down to this country.

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    It's came to my attention that you have mentioned labour rising the minimum wage a couple of times now, is that all you have to back up labour?
    As i said in the other post, what have labour done for YOU, Mr Dander?
    They've raised taxes, sent British troops to Afghanistan and Iraq (wich i think now has a British death toll of 281) and joined a union in which Britain has to consult them first before changing our own laws!
    I also stated this in my previous post in reponse to you.

    Edit - Also minimum wage is only good for the people who actually have jobs, most people where im from are unemployed to be honest.
    I think 13 years in charge of the country is long enough, Britain needs change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dander View Post
    Conservatives want things such as:

    # Clear financial performance targets for senior civil servants

    # Failing schools to be inspected more often - with the best schools visited less frequently

    My college was put in special measures and was inspected very often. How "often" does Cameron want it???!? :S Its just wasting more money

    # Clamp down on marketing aimed at children

    Great?

    Labour want things which will help people. i.e.

    * No stamp duty for first-time buyers on all house purchases below £250,000 for two years, paid for by a 5% rate on homes worth more than £1 million.

    * National Minimum Wage to rise in line with average earnings.

    * Help for parents to balance work and family life, with a "Father's Month" of flexible paid leave.

    Now you tell me, which sounds better? Anyone who says Conservatives are the "deluded" ones.
    Last edited by Swastika; 13-04-2010 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayme View Post
    It's came to my attention that you have mentioned labour rising the minimum wage a couple of times now, is that all you have to back up labour?
    As i said in the other post, what have labour done for YOU, Mr Dander?
    They've raised taxes, sent British troops to Afghanistan and Iraq (wich i think now has a British death toll of 281) and joined a union in which Britain has to consult them first before changing our own laws!
    I also stated this in my previous post in reponse to you.

    Edit - Also minimum wage is only good for the people who actually have jobs, most people where im from are unemployed to be honest.
    I think 13 years in charge of the country is long enough, Britain needs change.
    You are asking me a question which I replied to in your previous post. Best to read it first instead of asking it over and over and not bothering to read the reply.

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    Actually, clever cloggs - you did not.
    I asked, as i have here, what changes has labour made that has benefitted you or you see has benefitted Britain as a country?
    In the other thread, you proceeded to yap on about politics and parties on a local level, wich i did not ask for.
    If you want to get technical and cocky about things, especially when your wrong, then dont bother posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dander View Post
    You are asking me a question which I replied to in your previous post. Best to read it first instead of asking it over and over and not bothering to read the reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dander View Post
    Conservatives want things such as:

    # Clear financial performance targets for senior civil servants

    # Failing schools to be inspected more often - with the best schools visited less frequently

    My college was put in special measures and was inspected very often. How "often" does Cameron want it???!? :S Its just wasting more money

    # Clamp down on marketing aimed at children

    Great?

    Labour want things which will help people. i.e.

    * No stamp duty for first-time buyers on all house purchases below £250,000 for two years, paid for by a 5% rate on homes worth more than £1 million.

    * National Minimum Wage to rise in line with average earnings.

    * Help for parents to balance work and family life, with a "Father's Month" of flexible paid leave.

    Now you tell me, which sounds better? Anyone who says Conservatives are the "deluded" ones.
    You can't compare a minor Conservative policy to major Labour policies and use that as evidence for voting Labour

    Financial performance targets are often a good thing and sorting out failing schools/colleges should be a priority.

    And just to continue on from jrh on why we shouldn't trust the lying Labour, here's a fantastic list of 27 broken promises from their 2005 manifesto. I would copy and paste them below, but it'd take up the entire thread so I'll provide a link instead
    http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/04...-promises.html

    Reasons to vote Conservatives...

    Access to more cancer drugs
    Laws to ensure that if the EU are to push anything like the Lisbon Treaty through us again, it will force a referendum
    Stop national insurance rises along with other thatcherite business policies to encourage people to start businesses in the UK and attract businesses from abroad
    Direct democracy, vote on your schools, police forces, MPs and councils performance with the ability to kick people out if need be.
    Last edited by Jordy; 13-04-2010 at 11:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Laws to ensure that if the EU are to push anything like the Lisbon Treaty through us again, it will force a referendum.
    You know as well as I do and David Cameron himself that there will never be another treaty as the Lisbon Treaty is self-amending and does not require a referendum to pass powers/re-organise itself, futhermore the pledge that David Cameron has given over policy grabbing back from Brussels has already been shot down by Angela Merkel and he would need all 27 members of the European Union to agree to this. Ontop of this, our direct EU membership bill is set to soar this year at a time when we cannot afford it yet the Conservatives have pledged nothing to prevent this from occuring.

    As much as I would like to believe in a Conservative government (as we have disscussed many times) its nothing short of false hope to believe in the self proclaimed 'heir to Blair'. I would like them to make a change, I would like to believe in them but I just cannot and neither can many others hence why the polls are so close. This government is just utterly terrible and if Labour form the next government, it wont be Labour who won it - it'll be Dave who lost it. I have faith in the party as a whole, as historically it has given us our best governments but under this leadership we are essentially voting for more of the same.

    The sooner Cameron is replaced with the likes of Johnson, Hannan or Davies the better for the party and most importantly, the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dander View Post
    Conservatives want things such as:

    # Clear financial performance targets for senior civil servants

    # Failing schools to be inspected more often - with the best schools visited less frequently

    My college was put in special measures and was inspected very often. How "often" does Cameron want it???!? :S Its just wasting more money

    # Clamp down on marketing aimed at children

    Great?

    Labour want things which will help people. i.e.

    * No stamp duty for first-time buyers on all house purchases below £250,000 for two years, paid for by a 5% rate on homes worth more than £1 million.

    * National Minimum Wage to rise in line with average earnings.

    * Help for parents to balance work and family life, with a "Father's Month" of flexible paid leave.

    Now you tell me, which sounds better? Anyone who says Conservatives are the "deluded" ones.

    The Conservatives sound better. Lets take your points and see whats wrong with them.

    "No stamp duty for first-time buyers on all house purchases below £250,000 for two years, paid for by a 5% rate on homes worth more than £1 million"

    Oh dear.... the Conservatives can do better than this and pledge that stamp duty on house purchases below £250,000 will NEVER have to be paid, which
    is better than the measly 2 years labour is doing it for.

    "National Minimum Wage to rise in line with average earnings"

    Yet more money businesses need to find to pay their employees which entails that people will be made redundant (particulary people who work in small businesses)
    therefore this is a BAD thing.

    "Help for parents to balance work and family life, with a "Father's Month" of flexible paid leave"

    Another months wages that businesses will have to find to fund this silly policy and to add insult to injury have to spend more money on finding
    a suitable replacement for the member of staff who is taking a months leave.

    You see. These are utterly useless policys which benefit absolutely no one and therefore are a waste time and money. The only decent policy is the stamp duty threshhold being raised but the Conservatives have a better policy for that.

    As a result, there is absolutely no reason on this planet why anyone should vote for labour when there are much better and suitable partys such as the Conservatives which people can vote for to get rid of the government which has been rotting away in number 10 for 13 years.

    Plus, have you ever thought about this. You make it seem as if labour have new approach with new ideas. I'm sorry but they DON'T as they have had 13 years to express their so called "new ideas" so isnt it abit strange that they suddenly announce all of these just as a general election looms?

    I think so.

    Vote for change. Vote Conservative.
    Last edited by jam666; 13-04-2010 at 11:25 PM.


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    Over my dead body will me or any of my family vote for them, I can't get a job because of them...
    One for the road. :rolleyes:

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