Should we get rid of the "User Note system"?

[syko2006]

I think we should keep the usernote system. It certainly made things alot easier when I was a moderator to see who needs what type of punishment. Also, think about the amount of people who will get annoyed because of the straight forward yellow card warning. A polite PM can sometimes be enough to deter a user from breaking the same rule. I think it's fine as it is.

[hah]

Yeah i wanna see mine lol......... other users seem to be able to see mine (lol) but i cant
If i seen my very very very few usernotes i wouldn't break rules as much

[immense]

Yeah i wanna see mine lol......... other users seem to be able to see mine (lol) but i cant
If i seen my very very very few usernotes i wouldn't break rules as much

this. i honestly can't for the life of me understand why we aren't allowed to see our running total to boast about.

[Catzsy]

I know this is a bump but this thread wasn't given justice in my opinion! I think you should scrap the user note system or if not let use be able to see what we've got. I know we get a PM but if you get a PM every couple of weeks it doesn't take long for them to build up and although you have been told you have a usernote (you get a PM) it's incredibly confusing. It would make people stick to the rules more. The system isn't bad it's just frustrating and confusing as to why we're not allowed to see them ourselves? I personally don't understand why we can't. What's the official reason for this?

You could be cutting you nose off to spite your face here. Mods have a lot more discretion with minor rule breaks under the present system to issue another pm. If usernotes were scrapped I can see members who rule break regularly getting banned a lot quicker. I feel this present system is a lot fairer on members. As stated before user notes are just copies of pms which you could save to a folder if you want and there is nothing stopping you pm'ing somebody to find out how many you have.

[immense]

You could be cutting you nose off to spite your face here. Mods have a lot more discretion with minor rule breaks under the present system to issue another pm. If usernotes were scrapped I can see members who rule break regularly getting banned a lot quicker. I feel this present system is a lot fairer on members. As stated before user notes are just copies of pms which you could save to a folder if you want and there is nothing stopping you pm'ing somebody to find out how many you have.

Yeah, I understand completely but it wouldn't happen if I could see. Look at my old account, I had a few infractions, a few warning and 1 billion usernotes. I made sure I didn't get warnings/infractions because I knew how many I had. If I knew about usernotes and thought "OK I have too much" I'd try even harder to keep within the rules. I did ask on my Immenseman account how many I had and told they weren't allowed to be disclosed. I don't know if they should be scrapped Rosie, I imagine they're very useful for the moderation team but maybe the same system but we could see them ourselves.

[Hitman]

Back when I was an smod the system was the you break a rule you get a warning/infraction. Then it changed to usernotes and I left a bit after. I preferred giving users warnings.

[Catzsy]

Yeah, I understand completely but it wouldn't happen if I could see. Look at my old account, I had a few infractions, a few warning and 1 billion usernotes. I made sure I didn't get warnings/infractions because I knew how many I had. If I knew about usernotes and thought "OK I have too much" I'd try even harder to keep within the rules. I did ask on my Immenseman account how many I had and told they weren't allowed to be disclosed. I don't know if they should be scrapped Rosie, I imagine they're very useful for the moderation team but maybe the same system but we could see them ourselves.

Well that is obviously not a decision for me but they are obviously vital to the mod team otherwise we could issue harsher penalties than are necessary. Too much is made of user note 'confidentiality' I feel as it is just a record of a pm.

[Circadia]

i put indifferent cause i don't know what it is

[hah]

when sav showed me mine catzsy they were nothing like the pms i had gotten

[immense]

Well that is obviously not a decision for me but they are obviously vital to the mod team otherwise we could issue harsher penalties than are necessary. Too much is made of user note 'confidentiality' I feel as it is just a record of a pm.

First time I've agreed with you in many moons, I think. Too much is made, I agree. I'm assuming it's just a tick box option that lets us see them that could be altered within seconds by Matt or Jin or whoever. Obviously, I could be wrong. I know the counter argument is "you get the PM and therefore the record of the usernote" but it would be really helpful to me and others if we were allowed to access them on our user CP. Maybe a new poll could be created - Should we be given access to our usernotes? - or something similar. Just a thought.

I genuinely find it bizarre that they're kept from us, when they're about us.