Motorbike + Parents Problem.

[paul4wolves]

My parents wern't really happy when i first got my moped, then i was fine on that and they let me get a 125cc cross bike then when i wrote that off it was it, they said i wasn't allowed another one although im doing my bike test at the moment im not planning to have a bike for a while it is pure adrenaline though, something you wont feel for a while but meh. i nearly died because of a stupid driver hitting into the back of me at high speeds but your old enough for a car, so its well worth it.

So how did you persuade them in the first place to get a moped?

[iAdam]

Thing is, it's not safe on the road for bikes. I've done races on track, wouldn't even dare go out on a bike on the roads. It's not worth the risk at all, especially at 17, get a nice car.

[danzooo]

Bikes, imo, are absolute deathtraps and I can see where your parents are coming from; they're just really concerned for your safety, I mean put yourself in their position: how rubbish would you feel if your son crashed his motorbike and was really badly injured?
It's all very well saying "oh I'll be careful" etc etc but you've gotta see it from their point of view - they're not just saying no to annoy you.

[paul4wolves]

Yeah I know what you and my parents are saying, but I'm old enough to make my own decisions and it's not like I'll be racing around being a **** I'll only be going from home to work and school so I can't see the problem really. I need an EPIC comeback for when my parents say 'well it's too dangerous' ???

[jam666]

Yeah I know what you and my parents are saying, but I'm old enough to make my own decisions and it's not like I'll be racing around being a **** I'll only be going from home to work and school so I can't see the problem really. I need an EPIC comeback for when my parents say 'well it's too dangerous' ???

Find out some statistics like more people die from being stabbed in the street than do being killed from a motorbike accident (this isnt real but just look up some figures)

[GoldenMerc]

So how did you persuade them in the first place to get a moped?

I paid for it all, everything then they said if you crash it. then your not getting another one so ye

[paul4wolves]

A the moment you are my Personal Taxis at all times which I don't think is fair so I am going to get a bike and these are the following reasons why.

• I can see that you are trying to turn me into a independent adult by setting up my bank account and things but then contradicting yourselves by telling me I shouldn't get a bike even when I am legally allowed to.
• A bike will enhance my life, I wont have to catch the bus to school saving you money, You wont have to pick me up and drop me off at work any more, saving you time.
• I will pay for everything including the bike, insurance, tax, cbt (compulsory basic training) and petrol.
• The CBT will tell me everything there is to know about the bike and how to look after myself on the road, there is a lot of assessed practical testing and also a 2 hour session on learning the basic theory so I can ride safely on the road without endangering myself or other road users.
• I will only be doing short journeys such as going to school and back and to work and back and maybe the odd occasion where I go to town or something but I will not be doing long distances.
• I will only be going places that I already know the routes to such as to Wolverhampton, school and work so I already know where to expect potential dangers.
• You say the reason that I shouldn't have a bike is because it is too dangerous but as I said before I will only be going short distances to places I know so I know where to look etc and I wont be going very fast so the chances of coming off are very slim.
• I will also buy protective gear such as a reinforced jacket and a brand new helmet for your complete piece of mind.
• It's not like I'm irresponsible and I'm not going to be doing stupid things, I'm not going to be driving like an idiot because I obviously value my life and don't wont to end up falling off and injuring myself.
• I want a bike because I cannot afford a car in the first place or the running costs whereas a bike is much less to buy, less to insure, less to tax, less to run and less to learn.
• You say there's more accidents on bikes than in cars but I've checked on the DVLA website and it says that there are more people involved in car accidents.
• I can see what you are saying when you say it's dangerous and I can understand that you are worried about me but I will ride like a saint and be as careful as possible.
• I am only going to have the bike for less than 2 years while I gather enough money to afford a car.
• If I did fall off the bike then I would sell it and forgot about bikes and get a car instead.
• I have done a lot of research on what bike I should get, the costs and what licences and I have come to the decision to get an RS125 which will cost me around £1500 for a second hand one and the of course I am going to need to insure it so that is just £600 for Third Party Fire and Theft and finally I already have a provisional licence for a car and I have already done my CBT so I have gone to pick up the bike today.
• In total it will cost me £2395 as the bike itself costs £1500 + the insurance which is £600 and the CBT which costs £95 and I will buy the best protective gear there is which will cost about £100 as appose to a £2000 car with £2000 insurance and another £400 actually learning to drive so in total it will cost £4400 which is just for a small car and is already double what it costs for a bike and I cannot afford it.


That's what I'm going to give to my parents but I'm not sure whether I should do it before or after I get the bike?... I realise some of it doesn't make sense too I haven't finished. Also anything else I should add?

[jam666]

Few points with your previous statement, its not a question of IF you come off its a question of WHEN. Ask anyone in the biking world and they will give you the same answer. I dont mean to sound harsh but your going to have to revise your figure for protective equipment as £100 aint enough for the helmet alone nevermind anything else. You should aim to spend £150+ MINIMUM on a bike helmet that fits PROPERLY and is COMFORTABLE .

Apart for these yeh good reasons and good luck man

[GoldenMerc]

for protective equipment as £100 aint enough for the helmet alone nevermind anything else. You should aim to spend £150+ MINIMUM on a bike helmet that fits PROPERLY and is COMFORTABLE .

Helmet is the thing you need the most, get a gold star one for sure. I spent ALOT on helmets still have 2 in my house one for my moped and one for my dirt bike, I spent near enuf £600 on both. The more you pay, the more safe you are.
Secondly a jacket spent near £110 on, really needed with arm padding.
Trousers i never had any proper ones i was going to get some but never had the time, they arnt as needed any the other 2 but are worth getting, as are protective boots.
Ross

[paul4wolves]

Yeah I'll put £200 instead, any other ideas?